Which is better in your opinion? I'm looking at doing either a RIPP meth kit or a ZEX 75 wet shot(with purge of course). Which is safer and which has a bigger gain?

 

if ur boosted.. go with meth.. if not go with nitrous.. meth + NA = waste of money on a tc

 

safer is meth ofcorse there is nothing safe about nitrous lol. and bigger gain nitrous ofcorse but then again it can go boom alot easier.

 

oh come on guys, imagine how much fun this 16 year old kid could have with a 75 shot of nitrous! what could be safer?

 

Be nice drax... lol He's still a grass hopper

 

apples and oranges

 

your 16... whats your budget. You would spend well over a grand for a nitrous setup. The kit, bottle warmer, pressure gauge, and install (if you dont know how to). And to fill the bottle as well. Do you have a nitrous fill station around your place?

 

not to mention id probably get it tuned.........(a grand right there w/ ems & tuning-sesh included maybe even more)

 

i'd run meth just as a precautionary for boost spikes, i've have friends with horror stories of boost spikes with meth and BOOM. and boost and nitrous on our block without A LOT of money is a no no

and i don't recommend nitrous at all, once you pop cannot stop

turbo or go home?

 

i'm 16...I saved up for a while and got my Nitrous kit and upgraded alot of internals. To me I didn't see my self dropping a turbo in this car when I need it to hold up for a good 5 years. I spray only at the track when I go and yes listen to these guys...IT GETS EXPENSIVE...after you add everything up a top line everything you need kit will be atleast 1000. Cheaper than a turbo yes, worth it for gains, yes i love my bottle and the feel you get when the managment kicks it on. Please be safe with it and if you don't know what you are doing get someone to help you! Its your car, take care of it.

Also, I have an auto tc so I am only running a 35 shot. About as high as I want to go on my stock tranny right now you could probably do a 50 on an auto. Soon I will be trying to upgrade it and get some more power out of my auto but again there is more money. So good luck with whatever you choose but bottom line is be safe and know what your doing.

-Drew

pm me if you have any questions about my set up

 

his age doesnt matter
we all did what we did to our cars on a budget

 

^^ ya fer real.. i just sold my radar/ipod/xbox360/pc games/ car stuff.. all for a damn boost controller and new injectors LOL

 

I beg to differ man, id say if your whatever go with meth! Even if you are n/a i would not run nitrous without running meth. These 2 forms of injections work extremely well together if tuned properly. I would never go forced induction whether it be nitrous,turbo,s/c without running an aftermarket tuner. Alot of people don't really know how watermeth works, its more so a saftey mod than say a power mod, yes you can make power but thats only really if your putting methanol in your solution, alot of people just run water and say there on watermeth b/c they are retards. you have to stay consistent with your watermeth levels make sure you maintain fluid in the reservoir whenever the car is in motion. (that being you are tuned with 100+octane) and always make it a 50/50 solution. try not to fluctuate to much with your solution b/c youll have fluctuating octanes and you will confuse your ecu.

To the original post, you should not be asking what is better nitrous of watermeth? in fact you Most definitely should run both. Im good friends with the guys over at wolfcars google them if you like (they are a euro tuning company volkswagon/audi) there they have a mk5 r32 running a 125shot of nitrous (zex) the cars tuned with revo software, upgraded awd, intake, exhaust, and best of all lol watermeth. once again the cars n/a v6 running nitrous and watermeth, doing this dropped the cars intake temperatures the nitrous previously increased significantly. More octane, safe temperatures more power. if you know what your doing, watermeth is the fountain of youth.

 

I cant remember exactly the power it puts down to the wheels with the nos and meth possibly around 325whp, but it would lay down 12s on the 1/4

 

Slightly off-topic, but, along the same lines. Which is better, meth or a nitrous chill bar? I'll be running a Greddy turbo next year on a built 1NZ-FE with a FMIC and eManage blue. For a little extra on track days I am debating about adding secondary cooling. I would be running a secondary agressive tune for use with either cooling method, loaded manually at the track via eManage support tool.

 

definitely watermeth hands down.

if you decide to get watermeth go with snow performance, you can get either stage 1 or 2 stage 2 just lets you have more control as to how much ur spraying thru out various boost lvls, for me i gota bigger turbo so i can easily stay in vacuum pass people on highway and drive normally on the streets without going into boost, so id get stage 1 which is pretty much full spray when in boost. and for me thats great b/c as soon as my car hits boost it will go to full boost almost immediately and pull hard and eat all my gas, so i prob hit it 1nce or 2wice a day if at all and i drive alot. when having turbo i feel i drive less aggressively compared to when my car was n/a, it was like a go kart lol. its so much fun to rip it off the whole. with turbo its frightening you begin to think about who the hells gona pull a stupid move on the road and crash into me while im going 100+.... talk about off topic but yeah watermeth ftw.

 

Yeah, I was thinking meth because of the dual cooling / octane boosting properties, and was specifically looking at Snow since they actually take the MAF signal and not just throttle position. Might be able to get by with a single tune as well instead of two, but would have to run meth daily. Was looking at nitrous since I could get a complete kit minus the spray bar for $300 used.

 

my budget is going to be around 1000-1200 and i can do any install myself...i've been around cars all my life and my dads a mechanic...i've been in a racecar since i was 5 and my dad made me learn to do the work on every car i've driven

 

get yourself a nice watermeth & nitrous setup installed clean. pick up an air fuel ratio gauge and get tuned w/ an emanage or aem fic....to be 100% honest i'm not sure if you need injectors or not, you can but im not sure if getting bigger injectors on a n/a tC with such a low shot of nitrous is worth it, turbo yeah 14psi trd supercharger yeah but 50shot nitrous you prob wont break 210whp. do it, itll be a nice setup. the tune is important, you probably can just use an apexi neo or safcii or somthing, w/ low nitrous setups you gota pull timing n spray some meth n those little piggy backs are so cheap lol, get tuned at WOT for your nitrous and make sure ur meth only sprays when the nitrous sprays you will save alot of watermeth solution. meaning spending money on the stage2 snow performance kit is a waste of money.stage1 is all you need

 

then you should know the answer to your question.