As paul said before, it was a combo of the new clutch w/ its 100% clamping force being that its brand new and the drag radials...the car bit soo hard thats why the axel snapped. You guys wont hafta worry about this on the street unless you plan on launching your car at 4000 RPMs at every stop sign or traffic light. If you drive the vehicle like its supposed to be driven, you will have a great reliable daily driver with the ability to put a lot of power to the wheels when needed.

 

yeah, I love the numbers and i can't wait to slap one of these babies on... going with the turbo is only going to be a problem if you don't know how to take care of your car. If you don't have the ability to watch and monitor your system,(with the combination of knowing how to drive a turbo'ed car) then you should have no problem with this kit....love it , can't wait to kill my friends heavy a@@ Camero...

 

Exactly. If you drive like a maniac on the streets, of course any serious power adder (S/C or Turbo) will cause strain on the vehicle.

Daily driving, this system will be more than adequate and provide a hell of a commute to and from work and meets on the weekend.

 

Well we won't know that for sure yet based on the information thus far released. I was hoping for some information about the axle.

Scientifically, I guess we know which is the stronger force unless the whole ordeal was done over again with OE stuff. I'm sure the Dezod tC was beaten half to death before the turbo but theres still a change the turbo will destroy the next OE axle it touches.

I'm not explicitly worried but you can't fault me for wondering, can you? I'm sorry to be a bother.

 

I agree with what paul said. When you have a lot of power like the turbo kit puts out it, that power has to go somewhere. The weakest link ALWAYS is the first to go. Some parts can not handle that power. Now it seems from Dezod's and other kits out that the clutch seems to be a weaker point that goes first. If you want to be safe, keep getting an OE clutch each time it goes. Now with the new clutch all available power was going through the axles and the wheels. On street tires that power would simply be relieved by the tire loosing traction, but since the sticker tires at the track caught, the next weakest link went....the axles. I know this is my DD but when I get F/I i will be going to the drag strip every once and awhile with it, cause it's fun and I like it. And, Gainesville raceway has Friday night street legal drags. I did not realize at first you were using drag radials which makes hellofa lotta sense why the axles went now. I must have read through that without catching it. Loss of traction will prevent anything major from breaking most of the time with power like that.

 

Well if you don't launch your car like that then you won't have a problem. And that's what all this R&D/testing is for. Now we know that this is something we'll have to worry about when we buy the kit.

 

Well, R&D's purpose is for stuff like that not to happen to the consumer..

 

Ah, I didnt' realize you were on drag radials. But you know everyone who gets this turbo will rip off from a stop light by next to some civic every once in awhile

 

250tq at 3k on drag radials is known to break axles. I'm not surprised at all.

And I'm with you... you won't be breaking axles on the street, ever. Unless you are driving like a nut, then you are breaking the law which is worse in most cases. >=).

The difference between the Turbo and the S/C is more along the lines of power delivery then anything else. S/C is at the top of the rev band, turbo is more down low. There is a trade off with both. Just because Joe broke his axle driving the ____ out of it on the track, doesn't mean you will break anything more then the supercharged cars on the street.

 

As far as high performance axles...check out

www.driveshaftshop.com

Those things are beasts...I know a lot of turbo peeps who used their axles and never had another problem.

 

Dezod - please take my money

 

Guys and girls I will make this short and sweet...

The axle broke because of the clutch upgrade and the extremely sticky tires. I could have had a bone stock motor and I guarantee I would have snapped it. It's the traction that did it. I don't make full boost in neutral with 0 load, and I definately wasn't reving at 6k.

Now for the real update...

Paul and I are stuck down here in FL. I have occasional internet access. I am the lucky one. I still have no cable (no big). There are almost no gas stations anywhere, and there is 1 of 20 Publix grocery stores open down here. So food is tight, 6 million people are completely without power. There are no traffic lights at mosdt intersections and there is fear of contaminated water now. Paul is meeting me here in Jupiter, FL tomorrow so we can get some food and he can stock up on supplies before he heads back home.

Please bare with us guys, it could be a few weeks before we're up and running again. Without the power, we make no money (Paul more so than me). So please be patient with us and let's all hope for the best.

Thanks.

 

'hey man we're prayen for you! good luck!

 

Yea man, hope everything is alright down there with you guys.

 

Dude, seriously, I think we all care more about you guys than the car. The Dezod car is a pretty costly thing to replace; replacing Joe and Paul would take quite some time effort money and other things.

So sure, we'll be patient with the turbo. We'll be more than patient. All of Florida has my prayers. :D

 

UPDATE 10/28/05!!!
Road review and updates...
We asre VERY pleased with on-road performance. Some minor idle tuning for atmospheric venting is still being done but should be perfect next week. The car is extremely fast for such a moderate boost level. 3rd spins if it's when out with ease, and the BOV is smooth yet very audible. We are keeping the cat on our retail kits. We are also keeping the re-circ setup for the wastegate. There's new methods we're using to keept things perfect for the street car.

Race review and updates...
The Racing experience blew us away. 1st run I left the tire pressure at 30psi on BF Goodrich dragradials. This is extremely high for this type of tire, but I was curious on what it would do. 1st and 2nd spun, and I bounced into 3rd. 3rd and 4th went by just as fast and I hit a 13.8@103MPH at a little over 8psi. So, in an effort to get a lot more traction off the line, I lowered the tire pressure to 20psi. I heatsoaked the hell out of them in the burnout box (2nd gear burnouts are always fun). I get to the line, and as soon as I dump the clutch, BANG! I snapped the passenger side axle. retail for a new one is $467. I have a replacement showing up tomorrow afternoon. The car is capable of running a mid 13 at the street tune on the stock boost level. If you upped the boost and used our optional MAP sensor Greddy kit, you can run over 10psi safely and start cutting some high 12s on the same kit (providing you already upgraded your clutch like I have.

Verdict:
The kit is pretty much complete. We'll be selling the kits most likely as of next week once I have the new axle on and finish some final testing/tuning. There will be many optional and strongly suggested upgrades we'll offer.

All in all guys, we made it! Thanks to everyone for standing by us, and we look forward to all the Racing setups we'll be developing over the winter (Stage 2, head packages, pistions, rods, sleeves, cooling, tranny, etc...)

 

No other posts? You guys give up wtf. ;) nice work

 

I do that now and I don't even have a turbo!

 

So...what kind of axle are you putting on? A new stock one, or a beefier one?

 

We put another stock one in for now because we're done drag racing for a while. The stock axles are fine for the S1 kit and we're comfortable with running it. You do need a clutch though. My stock one was in really good shape when we pulled it out, it just couldn't cold the motor.

Anyway, Matt we didn't give up! I'm am still doing testing as we speak (did more today) and we'll be doing more testing throught all this week, with more videos.

Paul is still without the internet but got power back late this afternoon so at least he can get a well-cooked meal.

As another announcement...
We are proud to announce that Dezod has just recently teamed up with NST (www.nonstoptuning.com). We will be selling their complete line in addition to all the tC stuff. More info to follow on that.

The car is running great, and is a blast to drive. Everythings been holding up perfect since the tune and the ECU is holding A/F values well. More to follow guys. We may be able to start taking payments by the middle to end of this week, and finally get the kits underway.