The Official (updated) F/I Dyno Thread!
#65
#66
Originally Posted by Mr_Meaty
Originally Posted by jwaggz82
223whp/199tq s/c'rgd - I need a new dyno though because of another mod (so im hoping for a few extra horses).
#67
First of all let me start by saying Rob over at No Limit Motorsports is one pimp tuner! He's thorough, knowledgeable, and fair. Thanks to my WRX buddy for the referral!
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This is my 3rd attempt at getting tuned with the FIC. First tuner was not experienced with this unit and had an unfair disposition due to the condition of the unit (I'll give him some credit). The second one at rippmods had a bad taste in his mouth just from the poor software and connectivity conflicts and suggested I go with E-Ultimate, which I did.
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After finding a new tuning location which came highly recommended. I found a tuner whom has had success with many FIC's. So I decided to give it a go again.
Here's how it went...
Starting from a very poor/rudimentary base tune on the AEM FIC he started building what seemed to be a descent tune but there were issues. The FIC was not set up properly and at first the O2 signal was stuck. Once that problem was solved the partial throttle and VAC driving improved greatly.
However, during WOT random break ups would occur. Numerous codes would be thrown and in the mix a seemingly oddball cam crank code would pop up.
Without adjusting any values on the map the car would have random breakups with an occasional clean run.
Not being able to find the cure hours later we gave up concluding it to be a hardware failure.
I called up AEM and spoke with a tech. Turns out it was a hardware problem.
However, the fix required only a 20 cent part!
The cam crank sensor in the 2AZ-FE is magnetic. Another AEM FIC customer with access to an oscilloscope had been testing the FIC for noise and found the culprit!
The FIC was corrupting the Cam sensor signal into the ECU!
All that was required to remedy the situation was wiring a 2.2k Ohm 1/2watt resistor between CAM MAG+ & CAM MAG-
NO MORE RANDOM BREAKUPS!
Two days later it was back to No Limit Motorsports where Rob finished what little work was left on the tune. He still took his time and was able to finish up @ 10psi with just under 300whp & 325wtq on a heat soaked engine with inlet temps around 100F
Great success!
2005 Scion tC
Dezod S1 Kit purchased July 2007
Turbonetics T3/T4 Dezod Spec'd turbo (50 trim?)
550cc Deatsch Werks PnP Injectors
Dezod Spec'd T3/T4 Turbo
Stainless Steel Manifold (not equal length)
TiAL 38mm Wastegate
AEM Dry-Flow Intake
Stainless Steel downpipe w/ S-Pipe
Dezod 2.5 Mendral Bent Turbo-back Exhaust
No Cats
HKS SSQV Blow Off Valve
AEM FIC
Apexi AVC-R
Competition Clutch 9lb Flywheel
Balance Shafts Delete
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This is my 3rd attempt at getting tuned with the FIC. First tuner was not experienced with this unit and had an unfair disposition due to the condition of the unit (I'll give him some credit). The second one at rippmods had a bad taste in his mouth just from the poor software and connectivity conflicts and suggested I go with E-Ultimate, which I did.
*********************************************************
After finding a new tuning location which came highly recommended. I found a tuner whom has had success with many FIC's. So I decided to give it a go again.
Here's how it went...
Starting from a very poor/rudimentary base tune on the AEM FIC he started building what seemed to be a descent tune but there were issues. The FIC was not set up properly and at first the O2 signal was stuck. Once that problem was solved the partial throttle and VAC driving improved greatly.
However, during WOT random break ups would occur. Numerous codes would be thrown and in the mix a seemingly oddball cam crank code would pop up.
Without adjusting any values on the map the car would have random breakups with an occasional clean run.
Not being able to find the cure hours later we gave up concluding it to be a hardware failure.
I called up AEM and spoke with a tech. Turns out it was a hardware problem.
However, the fix required only a 20 cent part!
The cam crank sensor in the 2AZ-FE is magnetic. Another AEM FIC customer with access to an oscilloscope had been testing the FIC for noise and found the culprit!
The FIC was corrupting the Cam sensor signal into the ECU!
All that was required to remedy the situation was wiring a 2.2k Ohm 1/2watt resistor between CAM MAG+ & CAM MAG-
NO MORE RANDOM BREAKUPS!
Two days later it was back to No Limit Motorsports where Rob finished what little work was left on the tune. He still took his time and was able to finish up @ 10psi with just under 300whp & 325wtq on a heat soaked engine with inlet temps around 100F
Great success!
2005 Scion tC
Dezod S1 Kit purchased July 2007
Turbonetics T3/T4 Dezod Spec'd turbo (50 trim?)
550cc Deatsch Werks PnP Injectors
Dezod Spec'd T3/T4 Turbo
Stainless Steel Manifold (not equal length)
TiAL 38mm Wastegate
AEM Dry-Flow Intake
Stainless Steel downpipe w/ S-Pipe
Dezod 2.5 Mendral Bent Turbo-back Exhaust
No Cats
HKS SSQV Blow Off Valve
AEM FIC
Apexi AVC-R
Competition Clutch 9lb Flywheel
Balance Shafts Delete
#70
I hate to sound like a jerk - but please don't post that question in this thread. This is for dyno's only - and questions regarding the set-ups of the dyno.
Your question is very general and should be posted in the regular Forced Induction forum.
Thanks.
Your question is very general and should be posted in the regular Forced Induction forum.
Thanks.
#71
Originally Posted by Gymo
Ok, so I dont know to much bout turbos etc, but how does turbo toyotas get so much power out of their kit when others at the same psi, have like 20-30 less.
But to answer your question. Most likely because of the equal length manifold. EL>Log ^^
Ok now back to our regular scheduled program.
I'll be posting up a dyno in a week or two.
To add mine to the mix =D
#72
XERO! I am SO glad to hear of your success with the F/IC! I'm glad you did not give up on it. UMS (who tuned my car) called and found out about the resistor as well...I think it should be included in the dezod/boomslang harness from now on.
Just to let you all know, I've been very busy with work (even gotta go in Saturday) but I WILL be updating the chart, don't you worry.
For those of you who have alrady posted, you will notice I have added a couple columsn...namely model year and tuner. If you wish to have them added to the chart, post up or shoot me a PM.
I'll try to get a few more added tonight.
Just to let you all know, I've been very busy with work (even gotta go in Saturday) but I WILL be updating the chart, don't you worry.
For those of you who have alrady posted, you will notice I have added a couple columsn...namely model year and tuner. If you wish to have them added to the chart, post up or shoot me a PM.
I'll try to get a few more added tonight.
#78
can u add me to the list?
272 wtq / 284 whp @ 8 psi and 308 wtq / 309 whp @ 10 psi.
mods: 3 in maf housing, 550cc DW injectors, ngk 1 step colder plugs, aem fic tuned by church automotive, invidia s pipe, megan mid pipe, prototype turbo mafia 3" axle back
272 wtq / 284 whp @ 8 psi and 308 wtq / 309 whp @ 10 psi.
mods: 3 in maf housing, 550cc DW injectors, ngk 1 step colder plugs, aem fic tuned by church automotive, invidia s pipe, megan mid pipe, prototype turbo mafia 3" axle back