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Old 03-23-2010, 05:59 AM
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Does anyone have a map that is close to what my setup is going to be using a F/IC? I will be running a t3 at 8 psi with water methanol injection. My injectors are 550cc. Thanks in advance for the help. I just want to get a map close enough to get it to the shop to be tuned. Speaking of which, has anyone had good experiences tuning their own car? I have the uego and a pyro so that should help. I am just having trouble finding a shop that is confident in tuning the F/IC. They all say they can't partial throttle to run right.. wtf?

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I can't help you with a base map because I have an XB but IMO the first step in tuning with the FIC is to establish a good CEL-free MAF map. The MAF map affects fuel and ign timing greatly so start there. Then tune the O2, fuel and timing maps.

Start here: http://forum.aempower.com/forum/inde...c,19962.0.html

If those shops can't PT tune with the FIC, they can't tune. PT isn't hard. If you keep your fuel trims in line and balance fuel and O2 maps, the oem ECU will fine tune PT (closed loop) for you. My problem has been WOT (open loop) due to my lack of a dyno or personal drag strip upon which to log multiple WOT pulls.
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i was able to tune my partial throttle just fine on fic.... and im no tuner


what area do u live in
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8 psi, no dont tune it.. why bother?
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got ya.. I have access to a dyno at school, I just have to go in during the dyno class. Thanks for the input
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Originally Posted by cburglb34
i was able to tune my partial throttle just fine on fic.... and im no tuner


what area do u live in
I live in Indiana. Did you just hook up your laptop and data log on it and analyze?
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Originally Posted by ElevationTC
8 psi, no dont tune it.. why bother?
?? is that not enough boost for you? is that what you are saying? I considered running 12 but I didn't think the stock pump would support 12?
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walkawalka he was joking of course you gotta tune it for 8psi
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I'm working on my own base map for a t3/t4 50 trim, 550c injectors, at 7psi...it's not perfect yet, but if you wanted it, I could try and send it to you.
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I was reading the f/i thread and they were saying the stock ecu would compensate to an extent and there was never a real set # so when he said that I was like well maybe that's what he's talking about. my bad
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Yea it would help to see one that has been worked on I think Thanks
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after more thinking, title should have been.. pay to tune or??
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ugh and to this day still ppl think its ok to boost untunned....let me tell u first hand my afr was 16.8 at 4.8 psi untunned
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they should take it down off the f/i thread
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https://www.scionlife.com/forums/scion-tc-1g-forced-induction-1645/buyers-guide-scion-tc-fuel-ecu-36741/
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its up there cuz its the truth in CLOSED lopp the factory ecu compensates and adds or subtracts fuel depending on ur injector size, so for 550 cc injectors the ecu can get it so it is drivable at around 14.7 so u can get to a tuner....but at wot it will either be lean or rich depending on injectors and turbo size


for a tiny 16g it works.. for a to4e it fails,

wow its amazing how many people fail to use common sense
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GO GET TUNED & PAY


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Is this a serious thread?
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pay to the professional good tuner and save yourself potential engine damage costs.
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