PTUNING - The MOST POWERFUL bolt-on turbo system available for the tC.
#41
my point is not that he is makeing 360 that i can believe and deal with, but my point is getting at the huge hp increase in the different correction factors to make it look like a dynojet. there is no way he is making over 400whp with a 30R on 13 psi on a stock motor. 360 at 13 pounds yes sir your 330 on 10 pounds deff thats the exact numbers the cars should make with said turbo.
#42
just wondering how this is possible. i see your facts and i can see where you are coming from blownxa i however cannot understand how 1.75psi gains you 40whp? that is CRAZY. http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o...oke/Dyno-1.jpg is travis' 12psi dyno on the same turbo the only difference is he uses your RS manifold.
#44
#45
Someone could have just messaged me instead of everyone trying to compare my car to Slikks, and there will be little room for assumption. I just got back from Formula D, but I had internet still....
Not so sure why the hoopla over dyno numbers....Be fast were it counts. We do ok in the fast department, no one is going to pay him to take it to the dynojet, so just relax.
Not so sure why the hoopla over dyno numbers....Be fast were it counts. We do ok in the fast department, no one is going to pay him to take it to the dynojet, so just relax.
#46
We are actually glad to see that people actually questioned the dynojet and dynopack numbers. In years past when we posted our base turbo kit number of 280-300whp, immediately other vendors would post their dyno number claiming ridiculous number of 350-370whp. At that time no one seems to question these high HP claim. Everyone is quick to assume that the other kits made more HP. Our main reason for posting the emulated dynojet and dynopack numbers is to show people that when it comes to dyno number, you have to compare apples to apples. Not apples to watermelons (inflated numbers) lol. Otherwise, simply take it to the track and really see what bolt-on kit makes more HP.
#49
We are actually glad to see that people actually questioned the dynojet and dynopack numbers. In years past when we posted our base turbo kit number of 280-300whp, immediately other vendors would post their dyno number claiming ridiculous number of 350-370whp. At that time no one seems to question these high HP claim. Everyone is quick to assume that the other kits made more HP. Our main reason for posting the emulated dynojet and dynopack numbers is to show people that when it comes to dyno number, you have to compare apples to apples. Not apples to watermelons (inflated numbers) lol. Otherwise, simply take it to the track and really see what bolt-on kit makes more HP.
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#50
i completely missed the 350whp. you wouldn't be talking about these expert products here would you?
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From what I get out of when PTuning puts the simulator numbers in, is so that when you go to compare what a PTuning kit makes, you can compare it to somewhat similar scales as the competitions setup. Some use a Dynapack and some use a Dynojet. PTuning is just trying to show an apples to apples comparison (much closer comparison anyway) to Kits A or B when they show their numbers on different dynos. They will post a higher number, and then the end user thinks..."hey these guys make X amount of HP at the same boost, so I will buy theirs", not taking into consideration the way the PTuning dyno reads (lower). PTuning is trying to showcase that, or point that out here.
At least that's what I get from it, when they put up the % number increases for other dyno's. The competition rarely, if ever, use any Dyno Dynamics to advertise their numbers.
People shouldn't take offense to it honestly..
#51
I can't bring myself to ever want to get numbers from a Dynapack (at least not the way that one is setup). I think it's common knowledge now that Church's Dynapack reads rather high. Crazy to think though that there is someone who is going to go around talking about making 350whp at just 9lbs of boost on pump gas. We are smart enough here to know better, but they are out there though.
From what I get out of when PTuning puts the simulator numbers in, is so that when you go to compare what a PTuning kit makes, you can compare it to somewhat similar scales as the competitions setup. Some use a Dynapack and some use a Dynojet. PTuning is just trying to show an apples to apples comparison (much closer comparison anyway) to Kits A or B when they show their numbers on different dynos. They will post a higher number, and then the end user thinks..."hey these guys make X amount of HP at the same boost, so I will buy theirs", not taking into consideration the way the PTuning dyno reads (lower). PTuning is trying to showcase that, or point that out here.
At least that's what I get from it, when they put up the % number increases for other dyno's. The competition rarely, if ever, use any Dyno Dynamics to advertise their numbers.
People shouldn't take offense to it honestly..
From what I get out of when PTuning puts the simulator numbers in, is so that when you go to compare what a PTuning kit makes, you can compare it to somewhat similar scales as the competitions setup. Some use a Dynapack and some use a Dynojet. PTuning is just trying to show an apples to apples comparison (much closer comparison anyway) to Kits A or B when they show their numbers on different dynos. They will post a higher number, and then the end user thinks..."hey these guys make X amount of HP at the same boost, so I will buy theirs", not taking into consideration the way the PTuning dyno reads (lower). PTuning is trying to showcase that, or point that out here.
At least that's what I get from it, when they put up the % number increases for other dyno's. The competition rarely, if ever, use any Dyno Dynamics to advertise their numbers.
People shouldn't take offense to it honestly..
i can bring myself to go to churches considering he is probably one of the best tuners on the west coast i am not going there for his dyno numbers i am going there for the reliability of his tune.
#52
Thats exactly what I am getting at the % difference between the 2 are not as drastic as it is being portrayed . So then its not apples to apples its apples to nothing. car made 360 on 13PSI awesome congrats
#53
the thing is i've dyno'd my car on multiple dyno's dynojet dyno dynamics and one that i can't remember for the life of me what it was and i never experienced such drastic number variations. i dyno'd my car w/ i/h/e and i got 159 on a dynojet and like 156 on a dyno dynamics when i was boosted it was 301 on a dynojet and 295ish iirc on the dyno dynamics and 293 on the 3rd one.
i can bring myself to go to churches considering he is probably one of the best tuners on the west coast i am not going there for his dyno numbers i am going there for the reliability of his tune.
i can bring myself to go to churches considering he is probably one of the best tuners on the west coast i am not going there for his dyno numbers i am going there for the reliability of his tune.
Oh and no doubt, I wasn't saying Church's dyno numbers were a reflection of their tuning. Heard they were awesome. It was more or less just the end user who try and brag about numbers they get off of their dyno. Definitely sure there tune is dead on, so much respect to their tuning abilities.
#54
PTuning dyno of a 2011 tC Bone Stock w/ Manual Transmission = 159 WHP @ 153.7 TQ
On Churches Dynapack a 2011 put down 198whp. DSport mag dynoed one on a Dynojet at 180.11whp.
PTuning + 15% = DSports dyno numbers.
PTuning + 25% = Dynapack numbers that were posted
Only facts here..
idk...you tell me what your math % gap is if my math is incorrect.
#55
PTuning dyno of a 2011 tC Bone Stock w/ Manual Transmission = 159 WHP @ 153.7 TQ
On Churches Dynapack a 2011 put down 198whp. DSport mag dynoed one on a Dynojet at 180.11whp.
PTuning + 15% = DSports dyno numbers.
PTuning + 25% = Dynapack numbers that were posted
Only facts here..
idk...you tell me what your math % gap is if my math is incorrect.
On Churches Dynapack a 2011 put down 198whp. DSport mag dynoed one on a Dynojet at 180.11whp.
PTuning + 15% = DSports dyno numbers.
PTuning + 25% = Dynapack numbers that were posted
Only facts here..
idk...you tell me what your math % gap is if my math is incorrect.
- Toan
#56
Bottom line, your claimed dyno numbers clearly indicate the differences in dyno readings. If you can't understand this, then I think I see a time attack grudge match in the works real soon.
- Toan
#57