Reaching the end of my sanity...
02-01-2007, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by malloynx
you should never use rtv or telfon on oil lines. NPT threads are self sealings. you don't want that crap in the oil system.
if i were you i would pull the turbo complete off and go back to stock for you. not being a jerk but i really don't think you really for forced induction at the moment..
also i think 550's are way too big for anything under 15psi. a 440cc injector is more than enough to handle the fuel for a stock block.
also why does everyone spring for the emange.. i personally hate them. the safc-2 does the same thing and is much simplier to use. all your doing is scaling the maf freq. anyway.
if i were you i would pull the turbo complete off and go back to stock for you. not being a jerk but i really don't think you really for forced induction at the moment..
also i think 550's are way too big for anything under 15psi. a 440cc injector is more than enough to handle the fuel for a stock block.
also why does everyone spring for the emange.. i personally hate them. the safc-2 does the same thing and is much simplier to use. all your doing is scaling the maf freq. anyway.
02-01-2007, 05:25 PM
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your running the rc's corrrect? rc is a very good injector. with a returnless system it's a PITA to dial in FP. how much fuel are you pulling on the emanage?
is your car driveable on the sotck injectors? you can always have rc flow test them and rule out your 550's. i think they will do it for free.
is your car driveable on the sotck injectors? you can always have rc flow test them and rule out your 550's. i think they will do it for free.
02-01-2007, 05:43 PM
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if i were doing a fuel setup for 7psi i would run an AFPR, walbro FP and a return line. this call all be had for around the same price of 550's. this way i can control FP and later down the road i can add more injector if needed.
02-01-2007, 05:47 PM
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i believe he has the plug n play injectors. i have a kit a couple months older and i have the last of the rc's. unfortunately, i think a leaking injector might be my problem so im going to go get mines tested later.
good luck man, my car is still in my garage too. if you really need to drive the car, can't you just throw in the stock injectors, take out emanage and drive it without getting on it? at least you'll have transportation. this is the premise that the stage 0 works on anyway and people actually get on it. im sure it'll be fine if you stay outta boost.
good luck man, my car is still in my garage too. if you really need to drive the car, can't you just throw in the stock injectors, take out emanage and drive it without getting on it? at least you'll have transportation. this is the premise that the stage 0 works on anyway and people actually get on it. im sure it'll be fine if you stay outta boost.
02-01-2007, 08:03 PM
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How long have you had the 550's running on the motor? You know if takes a few minutes for the ECU to adjust to the new injectors at idle. When I first put in my 440 injectors the motor it would run really rich but not as much to going down to 10. After about 10 mins or so then the idle was back to normal 14.7-15.2. Maybe give it some more time for the ECU to adapt to the bigger injectors?
02-01-2007, 09:56 PM
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There is no way the car is going to run 10 A/F warmed up at idle. No way it will do this without giving you a CEL... When the ECU has to correct the injector-duty cycle more than 20% while in closed loop you will get a CEL code.
While in closed-loop the ECU will throttle down the injector duty-cycle to bring it down to 14.7 A/F. If you think the ECU is messing up the emanage map then reset the ECU and do the open-loop 3 trick. Now adjust the emanage injector correction factor so you can idle at 14.7 A/F
Plug the factory 02 back on and reset the ecu.
Start the car and see what it does.
Maybe the oil that you dumped through the down-pipe messed up the Primary O2, maybe it screwed up the O2 sensor on the wide-band as well.
Do you have the ability of adjusting your e-manage map?
While in closed-loop the ECU will throttle down the injector duty-cycle to bring it down to 14.7 A/F. If you think the ECU is messing up the emanage map then reset the ECU and do the open-loop 3 trick. Now adjust the emanage injector correction factor so you can idle at 14.7 A/F
Plug the factory 02 back on and reset the ecu.
Start the car and see what it does.
Maybe the oil that you dumped through the down-pipe messed up the Primary O2, maybe it screwed up the O2 sensor on the wide-band as well.
Do you have the ability of adjusting your e-manage map?
02-01-2007, 10:59 PM
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i agree with eric, once short term fuel trims go extreme the ecu is going to set a DTC. if you upstream lambda sensor is shot your car will run like crap. the days of narrow band o2's are done.
while in closed loop the ecu is going to maintain stoich at all times. something is very wrong if your running excessivly rich.
keep this up and the catalyst in the cat (platilium and pallidium) are going to get toasted. OEM TWC are extremely expensive..
while in closed loop the ecu is going to maintain stoich at all times. something is very wrong if your running excessivly rich.
keep this up and the catalyst in the cat (platilium and pallidium) are going to get toasted. OEM TWC are extremely expensive..
02-02-2007, 12:47 AM
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Originally Posted by ERIC-TC
There is no way the car is going to run 10 A/F warmed up at idle. No way it will do this without giving you a CEL... When the ECU has to correct the injector-duty cycle more than 20% while in closed loop you will get a CEL code.
While in closed-loop the ECU will throttle down the injector duty-cycle to bring it down to 14.7 A/F. If you think the ECU is messing up the emanage map then reset the ECU and do the open-loop 3 trick. Now adjust the emanage injector correction factor so you can idle at 14.7 A/F
Plug the factory 02 back on and reset the ecu.
Start the car and see what it does.
Maybe the oil that you dumped through the down-pipe messed up the Primary O2, maybe it screwed up the O2 sensor on the wide-band as well.
Do you have the ability of adjusting your e-manage map?
While in closed-loop the ECU will throttle down the injector duty-cycle to bring it down to 14.7 A/F. If you think the ECU is messing up the emanage map then reset the ECU and do the open-loop 3 trick. Now adjust the emanage injector correction factor so you can idle at 14.7 A/F
Plug the factory 02 back on and reset the ecu.
Start the car and see what it does.
Maybe the oil that you dumped through the down-pipe messed up the Primary O2, maybe it screwed up the O2 sensor on the wide-band as well.
Do you have the ability of adjusting your e-manage map?
And I know the emanage works because when I put in the stock injectors with the emanage, it tries to overcorrect and I run like a 17.0...although I only did this for a second....next I'll throw in the 550cc injectors and emanage or not it will run a 10.0. This leads me to believe that one of the injectors might be leaking....or not seated properly. But as for right now I pulled the kit off my car. The oil in the turbo is my main problem....it won't stop leaking from the discharge side of my turbo. Return line is clear, and tapped correctly into the pan, and I am 100 percent sure. The feed line I am confident in too, although it doesn't matter because my car is just idling so there is hardly and oil pressure at all...and I can't drive the car with the oil leak like this...
02-02-2007, 02:41 AM
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Originally Posted by rodlandscion
Originally Posted by ERIC-TC
There is no way the car is going to run 10 A/F warmed up at idle. No way it will do this without giving you a CEL... When the ECU has to correct the injector-duty cycle more than 20% while in closed loop you will get a CEL code.
While in closed-loop the ECU will throttle down the injector duty-cycle to bring it down to 14.7 A/F. If you think the ECU is messing up the emanage map then reset the ECU and do the open-loop 3 trick. Now adjust the emanage injector correction factor so you can idle at 14.7 A/F
Plug the factory 02 back on and reset the ecu.
Start the car and see what it does.
Maybe the oil that you dumped through the down-pipe messed up the Primary O2, maybe it screwed up the O2 sensor on the wide-band as well.
Do you have the ability of adjusting your e-manage map?
While in closed-loop the ECU will throttle down the injector duty-cycle to bring it down to 14.7 A/F. If you think the ECU is messing up the emanage map then reset the ECU and do the open-loop 3 trick. Now adjust the emanage injector correction factor so you can idle at 14.7 A/F
Plug the factory 02 back on and reset the ecu.
Start the car and see what it does.
Maybe the oil that you dumped through the down-pipe messed up the Primary O2, maybe it screwed up the O2 sensor on the wide-band as well.
Do you have the ability of adjusting your e-manage map?
And I know the emanage works because when I put in the stock injectors with the emanage, it tries to overcorrect and I run like a 17.0...although I only did this for a second....next I'll throw in the 550cc injectors and emanage or not it will run a 10.0. This leads me to believe that one of the injectors might be leaking....or not seated properly. But as for right now I pulled the kit off my car. The oil in the turbo is my main problem....it won't stop leaking from the discharge side of my turbo. Return line is clear, and tapped correctly into the pan, and I am 100 percent sure. The feed line I am confident in too, although it doesn't matter because my car is just idling so there is hardly and oil pressure at all...and I can't drive the car with the oil leak like this...
02-02-2007, 03:05 AM
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^^I don't kow what it is. I might buy an oil pressure gauge to check what it is. Also, from my crossthreaded o2 sensor, my header has stripped threads so now I couldn't put my car back to stock even if I wanted to. I'm running out of money to fix all of these problems...
02-02-2007, 03:14 AM
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The tC does not need the 02 sensor to run. It's really mostly to lower emissions.
You can always re-install the stock header and stick a spark-plug in the 02 sensor hole. As long as you are not running an e-emanage correction map the car will run fine.
You can always re-install the stock header and stick a spark-plug in the 02 sensor hole. As long as you are not running an e-emanage correction map the car will run fine.
02-02-2007, 05:24 AM
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im sure it runs off the MAF and throttle position.
on a side note:
sounds like what is wrong with my injector... 
on a side note:
I may have missed it but what is your oil pressure at idle? As for the injectors its not the first time I've seen a RC injector be stuck open..
