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Old 09-06-2008, 08:22 PM
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Old 09-06-2008, 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by NVMyTc
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I sorta raced my friends z the other night, i was at 7 psi on my unfinished street tune and i didnt beat him but he didnt pull away either.. it was close we were side by side and im only gaining very little towards the end before shut off... 7 psi is possible if tuned
From a roll or from a Dig?
from around 30-40 roll, we both hesitated to go so he was about 1/4 -1/2 car length ahead.. he downshifted to 2nd and I stayed with 3rd.. he pulled like 1 1/2 car length at first then i slowly made it back to about 1/2-3/4 car length behind him.. around that time it was dead even him a lil ahead, i started gaining a lil bit then it was shut off..

the only mod he has is that intake manifold spacer and light volks rims, my car is kinda heavy that time with a 50 lbs floor jack and 30 lbs tool box but it was from a roll so that should make much difference
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Old 09-06-2008, 09:07 PM
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dude NVmytc uve only seen 1 boostes tc in the 13's? ive seen.. ALL boosted tc's down here in the 13's lol.. KRDshark ran a 14 flat in his AUTO tc with 220 whp...
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ace was it the new model z's? cuz im pulling on z's now on 6 psi and im auto...
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Old 09-06-2008, 09:14 PM
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yeah its the new one, i think its an 07.. but its a rich map though, afrs at WOT is 11.0, my downpipe is disconnected to from my spipe so i dont have any wideband reading so I played it safe, put my safe map and ran low boost.. i think its about right, he started 2nd and im at 3rd gear that created so much lag
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Old 09-06-2008, 09:31 PM
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11 is good.. im at about 10.6-8 on WOT randomly somtimes around 11.2
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ya the new 350's are fast.. they beat me but i get the old ones
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Old 09-06-2008, 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by SoFloTC
dude NVmytc uve only seen 1 boostes tc in the 13's? ive seen.. ALL boosted tc's down here in the 13's lol.. KRDshark ran a 14 flat in his AUTO tc with 220 whp...
but he was on 8.5 psi and slicks wasn't he? street tires would be a different story

even on youtube, i dont see most turbo tc's in the 13's, especially ones on low boost

but in the end, its mostly a drivers race. and i think a good z driver and take a good turbo tc driver that is untuned and on low boost
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thats hard for me to believe considering my friends 240 whp gti did a 13.9 its also FWD and weighs about the same.. so anyone with a boosted tc doing 8+ lbs and not getting into the 13's should check there driving skills..
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but the question is how many people on 5-6 psi untuned are running 13's?

the orignal poster said he wanted to turn it up to 5-6 psi so he can beat z's and g's. which i dont think is possible, becuase i have seen stock z's pull 13.8 in the 1/4 mile no problem, and i have yet to see one tc on 5-6 psi untuned, besides the one on slicks, get into the 13's

the only way to settle this is to get a stage 0 to run a stock z lol

sorry to the op for hijacking your thread, just trying to make a point.
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Originally Posted by NVMyTc
but the question is how many people on 5-6 psi untuned are running 13's?

the orignal poster said he wanted to turn it up to 5-6 psi so he can beat z's and g's. which i dont think is possible, becuase i have seen stock z's pull 13.8 in the 1/4 mile no problem, and i have yet to see one tc on 5-6 psi untuned, besides the one on slicks, get into the 13's

the only way to settle this is to get a stage 0 to run a stock z lol

sorry to the op for hijacking your thread, just trying to make a point.
First - people need to stop referencing "PSI" - because that doesn't mean crap at all. Every turbo is different - and every setup is different. Two different turbos running at 6psi will make different HP levels. Two same turbos at 6psi will make different HP levels if the exhaust manifold, exhaust, intake, whatever are different.

It's possible that 5-6 psi can have enough HP to beat a G or Z. All you need is a 54trim or larger and an EL manifold (like Java, Ace, and Meaty) and you'll have your HP to beat those cars.. although I think Ace has a special issue - don't mean to call you out, Ace.
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Originally Posted by B_Real45
Originally Posted by NVMyTc
but the question is how many people on 5-6 psi untuned are running 13's?

the orignal poster said he wanted to turn it up to 5-6 psi so he can beat z's and g's. which i dont think is possible, becuase i have seen stock z's pull 13.8 in the 1/4 mile no problem, and i have yet to see one tc on 5-6 psi untuned, besides the one on slicks, get into the 13's

the only way to settle this is to get a stage 0 to run a stock z lol

sorry to the op for hijacking your thread, just trying to make a point.
First - people need to stop referencing "PSI" - because that doesn't mean crap at all. Every turbo is different - and every setup is different. Two different turbos running at 6psi will make different HP levels. Two same turbos at 6psi will make different HP levels if the exhaust manifold, exhaust, intake, whatever are different.

It's possible that 5-6 psi can have enough HP to beat a G or Z. All you need is a 54trim or larger and an EL manifold (like Java, Ace, and Meaty) and you'll have your HP to beat those cars.. although I think Ace has a special issue - don't mean to call you out, Ace.

did you forget me lol i have special issues
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^^ mine is way more especial!! but breal is right, exhaust leak before turbo will be devastating.. i can feel some difference after putting my turbo gasket, hopefully my butt dyno is accurate..

and yeah driving skills is very crucial factor, some of the guys close to 300 hp can barely hit 14s.. i've seen many tcs on the 13s too
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Old 09-07-2008, 02:00 PM
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can we get back to my question is running 3 psi daily safe till i get a tune
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yes its safe.. but if you drive conservatively you will never hit boost so you should be good..
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Originally Posted by coryjames
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happy BD man !

BlackSand is right 5-6 psi untune will NOT be enough to compete with Z and G's...
when you get tuned 6 psi should give you enough to surprise them...



i beat a evo 10 on 3-4 psi you would beat him lol
evo's arent that quick once they get going. My car is as quick as an evo and a lot of the turbo guys blow my car away due to their torque #'s being so much higher
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Originally Posted by NVMyTc
Originally Posted by cburglb34
thanks...and as for keeping up with 350z are u serious a zpi stage 0 at 6psi no tune can easily take a 350z especially on a 07/08 scion tc
Im tuned on 7psi and I have a rough time keeping up with stock Z's G's at the track.

A good Z driver can pull a high 13 in the 1/4 mile. I dont see many Turbo Tc's on low boost doing that
what tc's are you watching? on 9.5psi with a pretty rich tune i ran a 14.07. that was on the stock midpipe, stock clutch, and stock tires and spinning them all the way through 1st and 2nd gear. with decent tires/slicks and a lil better tune I could have easily seen mid 13s
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDmrrF_fVgk

i dont know how much this will help with the g35 argument...but if that tc was tuned it would of walked right away.
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Originally Posted by RusWolf
happy BD man !

BlackSand is right 5-6 psi untune will NOT be enough to compete with Z and G's...
when you get tuned 6 psi should give you enough to surprise them...

Yes it is. Are you not aware of the video of the guy that ran a 13.9 on a Stage 0 with no Management? He posted it. That's fast enough to take out a stock pre-2005 350z. 07/08 Z no, but the older Z yes.

And 6 PSI has been run on Hundreds of Stage 0's with no management. The car will be a little rich.
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Originally Posted by NVMyTc
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thanks...and as for keeping up with 350z are u serious a zpi stage 0 at 6psi no tune can easily take a 350z especially on a 07/08 scion tc
Im tuned on 7psi and I have a rough time keeping up with stock Z's G's at the track.

A good Z driver can pull a high 13 in the 1/4 mile. I dont see many Turbo Tc's on low boost doing that
You are tuned on 7psi? and have trouble taking on G's and Z's?
I'm tuned on 9psi and feel my competion well past there stock range. My good friend has a modded N/A g35 with a reflash, clutch,flywheel,and intake. and i find our boosted cars to be much faster. An untuned tC against a stock G should beat it or at least stick damn well close
Your friend must suck at driving then lol

What times do you run at the track? I have only seen ONE boosted Tc (in person) get into the 13's and he was on 11.5 Psi

Im not saying I have never beat Z's and G's, I actually beat them all the time. But only beacuse most of the drivers suck.

13 what? trapspeed? on 11.5 PSI he must have been on street tires.
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