Slowly letting the cat out of the bag .....Dyno sheet inside
04-12-2007, 04:50 PM
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I honestly hate dyno sheets, but for those who sell and make turbo kits we all know its the dyno numbers and the videos that help make the sale.
The set up at 10psi is just sarting to work, I won't see real gains (on whats currently out there but Jeremys kit) until I really turn up the boost.
Again the GT3071R isn't a large turbo, compared to what you are used to (16g and 20g) yes its a significant increase in size.
But the same turbo on your log manifold and of course the powerband will move down significantly in the rpm range.....
But that isn't what I wanted to accomplish...I am here to help the Scion community evolve, if I came out with another log style kit what would make me different than any of the other kits currently offered? Nothing....
At low psi levels the equal length is still more efficient than a log, the log wins the spool time but after that its a no brainer.....
I just wanted to offer the community something more than was currently available.
I have it , just wating to post it 
Paul is right...300 is easy. And its been done allot and way before I came into the scene.
We did it last week on a smaller turbo(GT28RS at 7.25 psi) so the 300 barrier is not that big of a deal anymore.
Thanks Travis...
So far so good....I expect the comments and its a good thing, I respect those who have commented so far and I know where they are coming from.
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Only on a log manifold, you will never see a torque curve higher on a equal length style manifold, won't cause enough back pressure for that too happen.
Then you will really see the manifold style come to life, at this point is where you will really start to see the difference in the types of manifolds.
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The set up at 10psi is just sarting to work, I won't see real gains (on whats currently out there but Jeremys kit) until I really turn up the boost.
assume thats the problem with larger turbo's:
You from what i could see only made 180 WHP @ 3000k
You also didnt hit 300 WHP until 5500k
This may be good for upper RPM's, But from a 2nd gear roll, or a dead stop, i dont think this would be an IDEAL choice.
You from what i could see only made 180 WHP @ 3000k
You also didnt hit 300 WHP until 5500k
This may be good for upper RPM's, But from a 2nd gear roll, or a dead stop, i dont think this would be an IDEAL choice.
Again the GT3071R isn't a large turbo, compared to what you are used to (16g and 20g) yes its a significant increase in size.
But the same turbo on your log manifold and of course the powerband will move down significantly in the rpm range.....
But that isn't what I wanted to accomplish...I am here to help the Scion community evolve, if I came out with another log style kit what would make me different than any of the other kits currently offered? Nothing....
At low psi levels the equal length is still more efficient than a log, the log wins the spool time but after that its a no brainer.....
I just wanted to offer the community something more than was currently available.
Try a 4th gear pull next time instead of 3rd... may load up better and show better bottom end, might loose some of that top though
Getting 300whp on 10 PSI is not hard, Joe and I did that a long time ago. Exceeding 300whp on this boost or lower, on a load bearing dyno with no additives or crazy aggressive tune is even more of a feat!
We did it last week on a smaller turbo(GT28RS at 7.25 psi) so the 300 barrier is not that big of a deal anymore.
PS...pay no attention to those trying to down play it or still your thunder.
So far so good....I expect the comments and its a good thing, I respect those who have commented so far and I know where they are coming from.
Didn't you know....
All of us Scion owners have tampons stuck up our nose, so all the Boost talk is sticking to our brains and causing Delusions of Grandure.
All of us Scion owners have tampons stuck up our nose, so all the Boost talk is sticking to our brains and causing Delusions of Grandure.
Interesting though....your TQ is lower than your HP. Usually it's the other way around.
would like to see what that turbo can do on... lets say 15psi. That would be sweet is this turbo kinda like the 35r it likes more boost right??
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04-12-2007, 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr_Meaty
Kit's coming along nicely. I like big numbers at little boost!
Two question, though, why does it say "Flywheel" at the top of the dyno sheet? And how is it going all the way to 6400rpm?
Two question, though, why does it say "Flywheel" at the top of the dyno sheet? And how is it going all the way to 6400rpm?
Below the graph posted:
PS- and YES its at the wheels, just a setting in the software.
04-12-2007, 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by TurboToyotas
Interesting though....your TQ is lower than your HP. Usually it's the other way around.
Todd
Aweee...I see. Good info to know.
04-12-2007, 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by TurboToyotas
Only on a log manifold, you will never see a torque curve higher on a equal length style manifold, won't cause enough back pressure for that too happen.
Then you will really see the manifold style come to life, at this point is where you will really start to see the difference in the types of manifolds.
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04-16-2007, 01:39 AM
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Re: Slowly letting the cat out of the bag .....Dyno sheet in
Originally Posted by TurboToyotas
I'm not one to play all my cards at once....
Same kit, same car, same setup, same psi, pump gas, not as rich but room for more, same with the timing.
GT3076R kit @9.9psi( so 10)
The fun has only begun...
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PS- and YES its at the wheels, just a setting in the software.
Same kit, same car, same setup, same psi, pump gas, not as rich but room for more, same with the timing.
GT3076R kit @9.9psi( so 10)
The fun has only begun...
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Todd
PS- and YES its at the wheels, just a setting in the software.
I have heard that this tc is racing road course at the track.....
did it have any overheating problem and how about reliability?
and heard that this one runs high 11's for 1/4 miles....
04-16-2007, 04:45 AM
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Originally Posted by ScionCREW
Good job Todd 
Ok now turn it up lets see something like 450hp
Ok now turn it up lets see something like 450hp
04-16-2007, 04:33 PM
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Good job Todd Ok now turn it up lets see something like 450hp
450 though is stretching it....
Thanks Art
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04-24-2007, 01:40 AM
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Re: Slowly letting the cat out of the bag .....Dyno sheet in
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Originally Posted by TurboToyotas
I'm not one to play all my cards at once....
Same kit, same car, same setup, same psi, pump gas, not as rich but room for more, same with the timing.
GT3076R kit @9.9psi( so 10)
The fun has only begun...
Regards-
Todd
PS- and YES its at the wheels, just a setting in the software.
Same kit, same car, same setup, same psi, pump gas, not as rich but room for more, same with the timing.
GT3076R kit @9.9psi( so 10)
The fun has only begun...
Regards-
Todd
PS- and YES its at the wheels, just a setting in the software.
I have heard that this tc is racing road course at the track.....
did it have any overheating problem and how about reliability?
and heard that this one runs high 11's for 1/4 miles....
Next racing will be May 5th.....
04-24-2007, 06:57 PM
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Here a few more dyno sheets.....nothing new just different views.
This is the same as before just in 4th gear instead of 3rd.
Thought I'd post this so you can see what we really do before you factor in the gear ratio.
Regards-
Todd
This is the same as before just in 4th gear instead of 3rd.
Thought I'd post this so you can see what we really do before you factor in the gear ratio.
Regards-
Todd