What are all of the components that i would need for a stage 0? I'm only going to just start with that and then upgrade along the way. are there any parts in a stage 0 that would not be used when upgrading or will i still be able to use everything?

these are the parts that i know i would need.

Turbo
intercooler
BOV
Wastegate with 4-6psi spring
Manifold
Piping

and these i don't know if i would NEED them for this set up or if they are just better to have.

Boost Gauge
Turbo Timer
Wideband AF gauge

any help would appreciated. I'm going to buy it piece by piece most likely because i don't have the funds to just drop a couple thousand at once. (bad at saving)

also would i need to upgrade my clutch with a setup like that? i'm not looking to push any huge numbers, just about 200 ish for now and then upgrade as i can

 

If it were a true stage 0 you would even need a intercooler.
All you would need is
-Turbo mani
-Turbo
-Down pipe
-BOV
-wastgate with the 6 psi spring
-intake pipe
-Pipe from turbo to the Throtle body
All these parts can be used when you go to upgrade to a full stage 1 which them would include Injectors, piggyback, intercooler and piping.
I would get your self a wideband not a norrowband gauge
boost gauge is not needed right now if you want to save a little bit of $

 

alright awesome. would i even need to upgrade my exaust either? i know for full turbo setups it's 2.5" and 3" for amazing ones. i have stock s-pipe and tsudo catback

 

Wideband UEGO (narrowband is useless changes too fast and not accurate)
Bigger injectors
piggy back

 

^^
If he uses bigger injectors and a piggyback then its not a stage 0 anymore.
U dont need to upgrade the exhaust I know when I had a stage 0 I had a stock s-pipe and mid with a 2.5 cat back. You can upgrade the exhaust later if you want

 

stage 0 = lame and stupid

just wait, buy a proper turbo, injectors, tuning source and get it tuned and make power "safely"

 

looks like you know what you need. just make sure you get a small turbo such as a big 16g. Thats what i ran on my stage zero and never had any problems for over 3k miles. im only getting rid of mine because i need money for school, but it was tons of fun and reliable.

 

i'm not looking for huge numbers though, why spend 6k on a kit that can make over 300hp when that's not what i'm going for at all. i couldn't ever see my self dropping 6k at once just for the turbo kit, which is why i was going to buy it piece by piece and start with an s0. if i had 6k on me right now i'd be buying a jetski or a snowmobile ^^

 

 

you guys talked me out of it. No more stage 0 for me. But now it's time to start saving funds to build a whole kit.

 

awfully suggestible i'm going the route of a stage zero kit, and i too had a question or two. i already have a turbo mani and turbo, i guess the main thing i wanted to know is what kind of power i'd be looking at if i went ahead without an intercooler. if i can hit the 220+whp range (with a cat-back) then that's phenomenal, don't need any more for the daily driving that i do.

any responses much appreciated

 

without an intercooler i would stay with really low boost like 4psi and thats probably like 200whp i would guess if that.
why not add an intercooler? its not THAT expensive.
what turbo are you trying to run?

 

^^ cool thanks for the info. i figured an evo iii 16g, like i said nothing too big or powerful. i saw on dezod's site that i can get a fmic and piping for $650 which isn't bad.

another question then: with a fmic do you think 6psi would be a safe daily driver without a tune or mgmt on stock injectors on 93 pump gas?

 

If you want to get technical a stage 0 doesn't exist meaning stage 0 would me you didn't do anything to your car. I know shops call it a stage 0 but technically all stage 0 are stage 1.

 

Thats probably the biggest turbo you could safely run.

i ran an evo III 16g on 6psi with no tune or injectors on 91 so i know its safe. even hit 8psi when my wastegate vac line came off not good... just get a wideband to watch your afrs

 

Same thing with me. I have a used ZPI kit w/ TT intercooler kit. I have the 6 PSI spring, stock injectors, and untuned. I seriously was not planning on running it this long w/o getting it tuned but some things have happened that funds had to be diverted elsewhere and I cannot return to stock. So far, no problems and i've been running it for almost 6k miles. Install was at 50,000 miles too. All I need is to save up for injectors n enough for a trip to PTuning for the tune using an 8 PSI spring on my F/IC. Can't come soon enough lol