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Old 12-23-2008, 09:34 PM
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not really. the stock components are much cheaper and you wont even ever push those to the limits. you're asking for a saftey blanket on something you don't need a blanket for. i know somone who runs 400whp on stock internals. and todd has a car in AZ that runs 400whp on stock internals. honestly it's your money but i'm telling ya you are wasting it.
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True - do you know where one could purchase stock rods at a decent price?
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what do u need stock rods for? u mean pistons? ill sell u my stock pistons/rods .. they barely saw boost only at 6 psi.. there perfect condition pretty much..
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Old 12-23-2008, 10:31 PM
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How much you want - and while im in there id rather replace rods also - just to refresh everything - and im still thinking about using 9:1 pistons - i have a feeling with the rings gone and the damage done ill need to bore the block to 89mm to remove damage to the cyl walls so stock pistons wouldnt work too well lol So what would you sell the rods for? And you still have the caps and cap bolts correct?
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i got everything i believe.. the pistons and rods are still connected though, idk PM me a price.
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Old 12-23-2008, 11:09 PM
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If you're going with forged pistons but stock rods and low whp, I would shot-peen the stock rods, and don't get 8.8:1 CR pistons.. I would stick with something higher like 9.5 or so. The forged piston will be stronger than ours, lighter, and with the almost stock CR, the car won't feel like a dog off boost.
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Any idea where i could find some forged 9.5:1 89mm bore pistons? I sure as heck dont wunna run 11:1 lol
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Old 12-23-2008, 11:21 PM
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Just call the manufacture and tell them the specs. Or I'm sure Dezod can order whatever spec you want.

Contact Paul.
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Old 12-23-2008, 11:32 PM
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Or,
Car-parts.com, find a clean very low engine and just swap it out, I bought a low mileage 07 for $1,400 locally, could of been less elsewhere but the shipping is a bit high.

There are a ton of used engines around and with a proper tune, you can run a very long time at the power level you want.

I also very much agree on comp ratio, you would kill the bottom end performance at low boost, low comp. I love high comp boost, much fun!!!

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Old 12-23-2008, 11:43 PM
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what would happen if i ran 11:1 pistons lol could i do that and run like 5 psi
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Old 12-23-2008, 11:45 PM
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You can run 9 or 10psi.

It all depends on your tune.

There are cars out there with high compression pistons and beefy turbo setups - it's all in the tune.
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Old 12-23-2008, 11:49 PM
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thats what im thinking or possibly using the 9:1 pistons and decking the head and block
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Old 12-23-2008, 11:52 PM
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im using 9.0:1 CP 89mm pistons.
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Old 12-23-2008, 11:52 PM
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hey those are the exact ones im looking at get my pm?
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Originally Posted by thendawg
thats what im thinking or possibly using the 9:1 pistons and decking the head and block
Be careful with that. You'll throw off your clearances - and may have to re-cut the valve reliefs on the pistons.

Just keep it simple man:

Block
Slight overbore if you want
9.5:1 pistons
Shot-peened stock rods
New bearings
Polished crankshaft

Head
Port/polish
Stock everything else.

This should be a super reliable 250whp engine as long as your tune is decent. The forged pistons will be more forgiving to pre-detonation.
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How does it do off the line before you hit full boost? Does it feel sluggish much compared to stock compression?
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no not at all to be honest.. i think anything below 9.0:1 is pointless i dont see why u would go that low.. im over 350 whp right now with mine.
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Old 12-23-2008, 11:57 PM
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ever figure out your built tranny issue? I still might have mine built one day - but cant decide if i do to go with ipt or level10
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Old 12-24-2008, 12:04 AM
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ya they said i need a standalone to control the shift points cuz the stock ecu isnt able to read the amount of power i have good enough or something? idk.. im getting the greddy ultimate this week and were gonna try and work it out
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