supercharger flash?
10-08-2007, 05:54 AM
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Originally Posted by BuddhasTC
Originally Posted by ScottTc13
Uhhh Dood... lets not throw out inaccurate information. 400 plus install for the reflash is a rediculously over-inflated price. Especially since many many dealers do the entire SC Install for 500! I paid 85 bucks for the reflash from my Toyota Dealer and I did my own SC install. I hear trdsparks will do it for around 125. If you want to verify that, email Ken. ken@sparkstoyota.com It is very easy to remove and replace the ecu. And how much is it really for the emage, plus the harness, plus the tune? If you don't have around 500 on hand for the emanage, you can get the reflash for 125. Or hit up this guy.... 06scionsc He works for Toyota somewhere and actually owns the tool to do the reflash. I think he does it for 50 bucks.
TRD reflash = 500 total and loss of 15-20whp
Emanage Blue = 300 + 100 install + 300 tune = 700 and choose your whp from a wide range of about 30whp depending on if you are gonna run rich or lean
200 dollars more for anywhere around 30whp...pretty good bang for the buck if you ask me...
But hey what do i know, i only researched this for over a year before i did it myself and have dyno proven results that are pretty amazing IMO!
Think before you post son
Here you go. READ
https://www.scionlife.com/forums/vie...=asc&&start=80
Quoted from the above thread by user (Sparks_Scion_TRD_Parts)
If you do it yourself and need it to be reflashed, we do that for $95.00. That includes the Flash and overnight insured shipping back to you. Make sure you don't drive your car without the flash being done. It's not a good thing. Just a thought.
Read more..
https://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=129889
Read some more.
https://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=195033
Read yet some more (It's about TC SC) Post by Garage1217
http://www.lexuslife.com/forums/arch...tallation.html
Anyone insterested, Call Hamer Scion who did mine and ask them if you can send your ecu to them. Ask for the service manager or Carlos. They charged me 85.
Phone: 877-274-0653
http://hamerscion.com/
Or call TRDSparks.com and ask them.
Phone: 843-236-2161
So now tell me. How am I misleading ppl?
10-08-2007, 04:51 PM
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i can back you up on the reflash prices...
in my area i called several dealers around the bay area and i got prices from $50 - $120.
However, i ended up talking to the service manager where i purchased my scion at and he told me he can just do it for free.
I lucked out apparently, but anyways i never heard of $500 for the reflash either. Maybe if you were to purchase the TOOL then yeah it will be around 500-600.
But yeah, i dont think dealers should rip people off. There really is no larbor involved. Just plug in the ECU into the map module and tool and wait like 20-30 minutes for green light and bam your done.
in my area i called several dealers around the bay area and i got prices from $50 - $120.
However, i ended up talking to the service manager where i purchased my scion at and he told me he can just do it for free.
I lucked out apparently, but anyways i never heard of $500 for the reflash either. Maybe if you were to purchase the TOOL then yeah it will be around 500-600.
But yeah, i dont think dealers should rip people off. There really is no larbor involved. Just plug in the ECU into the map module and tool and wait like 20-30 minutes for green light and bam your done.
10-10-2007, 07:20 AM
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and don't u need to tool to reflash your car? hmm...i apologize for not being clear on the fact that the cost included both...any idiot would have put 2 and 2 together anyway...well almost any idiot. And just so you know since you obviously pride yourself on your research, you should have researched the fact that if you get the s/c used, you HAVE to get a new reflash because the one that was used on it originally is not gonna work again. And guess what...a lot of people buy it used, including me but instead of going for the reflash option, i went with the emanage blue and i would say my results are pretty impressive seeing that i spent a lot less on my whole s/c setup than u did on your s/c itself...oh well, enough of this chit chat because it is pointless now and not doing any good for the original poster
10-10-2007, 09:37 AM
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OK OK
YOU DO NOT NEED THE TOOL. The place flashing it does.
A reflash should NOT cost more than $100. If you are paying more than $100, GO SOMEWHERE ELSE. A COMPLETE supercharger install should be NOT more than $600. If they charge you $400 to plus a cable in and press a buton, that means it only costs $200 for them to spend 8 hours installing the supercharger.
Obviously that isnt the case.
Now onto the emanage. An emanage BLUE is going to run $300. Add in the pressure sensor, the boost sensor, knock sensor, and PnP so that you dont destroy the factory wiring, plus a tune at $250 OR more and you are around $1000 for a piggyback unit.
YOU DO NOT NEED THE TOOL. The place flashing it does.
A reflash should NOT cost more than $100. If you are paying more than $100, GO SOMEWHERE ELSE. A COMPLETE supercharger install should be NOT more than $600. If they charge you $400 to plus a cable in and press a buton, that means it only costs $200 for them to spend 8 hours installing the supercharger.
Obviously that isnt the case.
Now onto the emanage. An emanage BLUE is going to run $300. Add in the pressure sensor, the boost sensor, knock sensor, and PnP so that you dont destroy the factory wiring, plus a tune at $250 OR more and you are around $1000 for a piggyback unit.
10-10-2007, 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by BuddhasTC
and don't u need to tool to reflash your car? hmm...i apologize for not being clear on the fact that the cost included both...any idiot would have put 2 and 2 together anyway...well almost any idiot. And just so you know since you obviously pride yourself on your research, you should have researched the fact that if you get the s/c used, you HAVE to get a new reflash because the one that was used on it originally is not gonna work again. And guess what...a lot of people buy it used, including me but instead of going for the reflash option, i went with the emanage blue and i would say my results are pretty impressive seeing that i spent a lot less on my whole s/c setup than u did on your s/c itself...oh well, enough of this chit chat because it is pointless now and not doing any good for the original poster
i was just trying to help out with my experience. hope you were not talking to me 
10-10-2007, 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Sleep3r
Originally Posted by BuddhasTC
and don't u need to tool to reflash your car? hmm...i apologize for not being clear on the fact that the cost included both...any idiot would have put 2 and 2 together anyway...well almost any idiot. And just so you know since you obviously pride yourself on your research, you should have researched the fact that if you get the s/c used, you HAVE to get a new reflash because the one that was used on it originally is not gonna work again. And guess what...a lot of people buy it used, including me but instead of going for the reflash option, i went with the emanage blue and i would say my results are pretty impressive seeing that i spent a lot less on my whole s/c setup than u did on your s/c itself...oh well, enough of this chit chat because it is pointless now and not doing any good for the original poster
i was just trying to help out with my experience. hope you were not talking to me Whether the SC is bought new or used it's 100 bucks for the reflash. I have no idea why you would tell ppl they should expect to pay 500 and buy the tool. That just makes no sense. I never said someone who bought it used wouldn't need a reflash. That's common sense so I don't need to research that. Oh, and Good for you on saving money on a used supercharger. I don't know why you think I care.
10-10-2007, 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by ScottTc13
Originally Posted by Nick06tC
So pretty much, any idiot would realize, you dont buy the tool, the company reflashign buys it.
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