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Old 02-24-2009 | 07:50 PM
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Just being in the FI section would tell u the best way to go. But im sure he did his research and hes' just testing the knowledge of the guys here.
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I would suggest you buy a turbonator. It's way cheaper than a SC or Turbo and can boost up to 22psi while still having 28mpg.
Old 02-24-2009 | 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
Originally Posted by CarbonXe
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I only know of 1 SC tc that was at 331whp I think. an to do ll of that u spend A LOT OF MONEY when u can jus go turbo and spend even cheaper on that. but of course NEVER boost on a budget. turbo will always make more power over a SC. and btw supercharger is crap anyway, that's y there discontinuing that POS
It was 311whp and it was milked for every possible HP.


+1 on that.

I'm tired of seeing this thread title. OP did NOT research. If he did, he would have found 10million S/C'er vs Turbo threads.

I did type in and did alot of research but people tell me that superchargers are better for the money but when you talk about turbos you can get more boost but if you dont know what you are doing then you can blow up your motor i didnt find any comp and contrast threads so this is why one was made PWNT
Old 02-24-2009 | 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by streetracer99x
Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
Originally Posted by CarbonXe
Originally Posted by rosedaleny806
I only know of 1 SC tc that was at 331whp I think. an to do ll of that u spend A LOT OF MONEY when u can jus go turbo and spend even cheaper on that. but of course NEVER boost on a budget. turbo will always make more power over a SC. and btw supercharger is crap anyway, that's y there discontinuing that POS
It was 311whp and it was milked for every possible HP.


+1 on that.

I'm tired of seeing this thread title. OP did NOT research. If he did, he would have found 10million S/C'er vs Turbo threads.
Well I think you can find turbo kits cheaper than an s/c if your tc is an 07+. Well they are discontinuing the s/c b/c there not selling so well and b/c of their problems...


I did type in and did alot of research but people tell me that superchargers are better for the money but when you talk about turbos you can get more boost but if you dont know what you are doing then you can blow up your motor i didnt find any comp and contrast threads so this is why one was made PWNT
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y r u worrying about boost? us hould be worrying bout is how much HP ur gonna make not how much boost. the more the boost on a car the engine will blow. ur worrying bout the wrong thing. SC people are running 9/11/12psi pullies. stock is 7. people that are running Turbos at 8psi are pushing about 290 ish u will never get that much with a 9lb pully for a SC
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hahaha I accidently wrote inside of that quote... well you guys will see it.
Old 02-24-2009 | 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by rosedaleny806
y r u worrying about boost? us hould be worrying bout is how much HP ur gonna make not how much boost. the more the boost on a car the engine will blow. ur worrying bout the wrong thing. SC people are running 9/11/12psi pullies. stock is 7. people that are running Turbos at 8psi are pushing about 290 ish u will never get that much with a 9lb pully for a SC

Yeah i understand that then how much can stock internals handle on boost.
Old 02-24-2009 | 08:00 PM
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^ about 300whp-350whp...i would suggest if going over 300...get some internal work done!
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Old 02-24-2009 | 08:10 PM
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Okay here it is. 300WHP out of a S/C requires atleast a 12lb pulley, full exhaust, meth inj, and an insanely aggressive tune.
300WHP out of a turbo requires a basic kit, full exhaust, no meth, 10-11PSI, and a conservative tune.

I managed to make more power than that S/C did (I think he was on a DynoJet which reads 10-15% higher than a DD), out of the same amount of boost, on a conservative street tune, with less stuff (no pulleys, no meth, no pro-tune, no clutch, no flywheel).

The only thing good about the TRD S/C, is the warranty. If you're going to swap the pulley for some more power, then the turbo should have been your original choice.
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Originally Posted by streetracer99x
Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
Originally Posted by CarbonXe
Originally Posted by rosedaleny806
I only know of 1 SC tc that was at 331whp I think. an to do ll of that u spend A LOT OF MONEY when u can jus go turbo and spend even cheaper on that. but of course NEVER boost on a budget. turbo will always make more power over a SC. and btw supercharger is crap anyway, that's y there discontinuing that POS
It was 311whp and it was milked for every possible HP.


+1 on that.

I'm tired of seeing this thread title. OP did NOT research. If he did, he would have found 10million S/C'er vs Turbo threads.

I did type in and did alot of research but people tell me that superchargers are better for the money but when you talk about turbos you can get more boost but if you dont know what you are doing then you can blow up your motor i didnt find any comp and contrast threads so this is why one was made PWNT

ORLY?

Then I guess you need to learn "HOW" to search.

https://www.scionlife.com/forums/vie...rger&&start=20

https://www.scionlife.com/forums/vie...++supercharger

https://www.scionlife.com/forums/vie...++supercharger

https://www.scionlife.com/forums/vie...++supercharger

https://www.scionlife.com/forums/vie...++supercharger
Old 02-24-2009 | 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by CarbonXe
Okay here it is. 300WHP out of a S/C requires atleast a 12lb pulley, full exhaust, meth inj, and an insanely aggressive tune and some camshafts .
300WHP out of a turbo requires a basic kit, full exhaust, no meth, 10-11PSI, and a conservative tune.

I managed to make more power than that S/C did (I think he was on a DynoJet which reads 10-15% higher than a DD), out of the same amount of boost, on a conservative street tune, with less stuff (no pulleys, no meth, no pro-tune, no clutch, no flywheel).

The only thing good about the TRD S/C, is the warranty. If you're going to swap the pulley for some more power, then the turbo should have been your original choice.

There fixed that part for you.
Old 02-24-2009 | 08:39 PM
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lol he was cammed too? That's sad.
Old 02-24-2009 | 08:59 PM
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yeah thats alil too much to try and make a SC even come close to a turbokit. to much of a hassle when u could gotten a turbo to begin with.


stock internals can handle about 300-330ish? and stock clutch if that. i could be wrong though
Old 02-24-2009 | 09:03 PM
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Again, that was with the rather poorly designed TRD vortex supercharger. If a properly designed Eaton TVS R1050 or R1320 setup were kitted, you would probably see it make a run for the turbo. The R1320 is oversized for the tC but runs 72% efficiency @ 13k shaft RPM and puts out 1.9 bar (that's 27 psi).

Oh how I wish I had a tC and a TIG welder to play with.
Old 02-24-2009 | 09:04 PM
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I have a superturbocharger
Old 02-24-2009 | 09:08 PM
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^ dont sleep lol twin charge(SC and turbo) has been done on the tc. yes it was completely pointless though
Old 02-24-2009 | 09:09 PM
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^^Naw its was pretty pimp..too bad they never pushed it beyond what it could actually do.
Old 02-24-2009 | 09:10 PM
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Domo laughs, but I was seriously considering doing one. Only problem is I couldn't figure out how to get the charge temp feeding the s/c cool enough, running meth through an Eaton is a no-no because the alcohol gets into the sealed bearings and displaces the oil.




Ended up scrapping the concept, now it's going All Turbo!
Old 02-24-2009 | 09:12 PM
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oh yeahhh i forgot i was watching ur thread awhile bak about a twincharge on ur XB. on the tc it was done but it wasnt really pushing much



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