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Old 08-06-2008, 12:40 PM
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He has a ZPI kit already. He wants the S/C because his turbo kit is falling apart.
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Originally Posted by CarbonXe
He has a ZPI kit already. He wants the S/C because his turbo kit is falling apart.

That goes for every F/I application on a tC, including a S/C'er. The seals fail sooner or later...
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Doesn't go for a TRD S/C. Warranty > everything else.
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Originally Posted by CarbonXe
Doesn't go for a TRD S/C. Warranty > everything else.
seriously.
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http://www.trdusa.com/superchargers.cfm

click turbo vs. super. Has good info. I cant post it here because it is flash on their site and I am not about to transcribe that your for

Yes TRD warranty 1 year for blower. If dealer installs this kit you will have the remainder of your limited Toyota warranty.
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i have a extended warranty and maintenance plan
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I'm sure they will get you one way or another.
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thats why im not gonna touch it
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Originally Posted by CarbonXe
He has a ZPI kit already. He wants the S/C because his turbo kit is falling apart.
WHAT?? didnt he said he wants to sell the turbo because of hes living in Cali? he had some tickets. etc... hes got a good reason to get rid off the turbo.. btw i would just move to a different state:D
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Originally Posted by CarbonXe
Doesn't go for a TRD S/C. Warranty > everything else.

LOL....the warranty is only for stock S/C'ers with nothing else on them. How many stock only S/C'ers you know of?
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Doesn't go for a TRD S/C. Warranty > everything else.

LOL....the warranty is only for stock S/C'ers with nothing else on them. How many stock only S/C'ers you know of?
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thats why im not gonna touch it
He answered your question for you.
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Originally Posted by CarbonXe
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Doesn't go for a TRD S/C. Warranty > everything else.

LOL....the warranty is only for stock S/C'ers with nothing else on them. How many stock only S/C'ers you know of?
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thats why im not gonna touch it
He answered your question for you.
yeap. im only gonna do exhaust, im gonna do axleback for sure, but im not sure on the mid and s pipe.
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He has a ZPI kit already. He wants the S/C because his turbo kit is falling apart.
WHAT?? didnt he said he wants to sell the turbo because of hes living in Cali? he had some tickets. etc... hes got a good reason to get rid off the turbo.. btw i would just move to a different state:D
YES living in cali is a HUGE part of this decision. actually the 2nd biggest. i dont have any tickets though. i want to move to a different state also. my dad was just pulled over for "failure to signal"

BULL$H!T
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Originally Posted by CarbonXe
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Doesn't go for a TRD S/C. Warranty > everything else.

LOL....the warranty is only for stock S/C'ers with nothing else on them. How many stock only S/C'ers you know of?
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thats why im not gonna touch it
He answered your question for you.

That's what they all say....

Might as well leave the car stock and add bolt-ons, you will be just as fast, and spend less money. I/H/E+crank pulley is AS fast as a S/C'ed only tC.
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Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
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Doesn't go for a TRD S/C. Warranty > everything else.

LOL....the warranty is only for stock S/C'ers with nothing else on them. How many stock only S/C'ers you know of?
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thats why im not gonna touch it
He answered your question for you.

That's what they all say....

Might as well leave the car stock and add bolt-ons, you will be just as fast, and spend less money. I/H/E+crank pulley is AS fast as a S/C'ed only tC.
i dont want headers because itll be raspy, i can upgrade the stock box to an air filter, but there goes the warranty, exhaust i can do no problem, pulley and there goes the warranty.
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Swapping the airbox takes 10 minutes. Just keep the stock one, and if something goes wrong, just swap the stock parts back on and you'll be fine lol.
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true... but then i have to buy a whole new intake just for the piece w/ the MAF
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Originally Posted by tCtCtC
Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
Originally Posted by CarbonXe
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Doesn't go for a TRD S/C. Warranty > everything else.

LOL....the warranty is only for stock S/C'ers with nothing else on them. How many stock only S/C'ers you know of?
Originally Posted by tCtCtC
thats why im not gonna touch it
He answered your question for you.

That's what they all say....

Might as well leave the car stock and add bolt-ons, you will be just as fast, and spend less money. I/H/E+crank pulley is AS fast as a S/C'ed only tC.
i dont want headers because itll be raspy, i can upgrade the stock box to an air filter, but there goes the warranty, exhaust i can do no problem, pulley and there goes the warranty.
The right combination of Resonator and exhaust muffler will produce no rasp. One of our crew members is over in Iraq right now, but his car is all bolt-on presently. He has no rasp at all. Not exaggerating either. He has none.

Warranty is overrated. They try to blame you for any and everything anyway so they don't have to provide free labor. But hey, get the S/C'er, have fun with it, when the seals go, take it to a Dealer and have some grease guy fix it up for you. Better make sure you never drive it hard though, otherwise they will try and find any neglect on your part and stick you with the bill.

Bottom line, the S/C'er is the LEAST cost effective route for the tC. Dollars - to - HP ratio is the worst if you buy that and keep it completely stock. But if you change it, there goes the warranty anyway, so you might as well go turbo.
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but you have to realize how much BS you get pulled over for in cali. just read what i posted above.
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from my own THOROUGH experience with the supercharger, trd wont really back you on it unless it just doesnt work. mine only boosts 5psi, 174whp at most and they dont really care. they say its within spec and they only say you can get UPTO 7psi 19x whp. just something to keep in mind.

it is very inexpensive, the installation is simple, and its great that its tuned. if you want simplicity that will give you a decently balanced engine, get the s/c.

oh yeah almost forgot to mention, it will burn oil. i burn about a quart of oil every 2k miles so... though i dont know if thats all from the supercharger. its natural for a supercharger like the ones we can get to burn oil, as its used for both lubrication and cooling, but a quart is a bit excessive.
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