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Old 04-12-2007, 05:16 PM
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Ok, so I have a few questions regarding the TRD. I really want some more power out of my Tc. I've been looking around and the TRD Supercharger seems like the most reliable and safe option to putting some kick in my vehicle. I am deffinitly not inclined to try an install myself, and feel alot safer with dealer installation so that's another plus.

So, are these superchargers effective enough so I'll be more satisfied with the power of my vehicle? I'm not looking for the fastest thing on the road by any means, but I'd like a little more power.

Also, if I get the dealer to install it, do they put in everything I'll need? Or do I have to get aftermarket regulation parts for the charger?

All advice, knowledge and direction appreciated as usual. Thanks!
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you didn't look around hard enough. the supercharger is hardly reliable at all. all that money is wasted because yes you'll get more power, but you only be alittle faster than a stock tc. when you lose to a civic si, you'll be crying. the superchargers have a laundry list of problems. they SHOULD be covered under warranty if your car is 100% stock. some people have had their warranty voided in the wake of an sc problem because they didn't check their oil at ever gas fill up.

but no, you don't need anything other than the supercharger kit itself, no additional parts are needed if installed by dealership.

my advice is to instead get a zpi stage 0 with emanage, bov and gauges for monitoring. you'll be faster and more reliable than a supercharger. you won't have a warranty anymore though.

so in short, the superchager is junk.
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If I order a different aftermarket supercharge online, are there places that install them? Or would I have to figure it out myself?

I assume that there are installation services but it must cost a crap load.
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My friend works for toyota and hes installed TRD superchargers on tC's and the customers are very ____ed off for spending soo much money and gettin barely any power out of it.

The company i work for (F2) is building a turbo kit thats gona add almost 100hp to the wheel,, so if you want hold of on buying a supercharger and ill let u know how the turbo is as soon as we get it on my car.
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Sounds amazing, I'd like to be kept in the loop on that, but my question still stands. None of this will do me any good if no one installs them...
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I'm sure their is a performance shop around that could install it for you. Make a post or search in your area forum and see. If you get an aftermarket charger though, your warranty is going to be void, so be careful.
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there is no off the shelf supercharger for the tc other than the trd, which is a rebadged vortech model. if you really want more power, the superchager isn't enough, and doing anything to the supercharger to increase power voids the warranty.

any stage 1 turbo kit will add about 100 whp and they are all reliable on the stock engine when professionally installed and properly tuned.

unfortunately it is more expensive because you need more parts. you'll need a stronger clutch, gauges for monitors, a piggy back ecu if the kit doesn't come with one, and one step colder spark plugs.

but the dramatic increase in power is soooo worth it.
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I just e-mailed a local dealer asking what their price quote would be, but how much did your system cost? Or can you give me a ballpark figure? Thanks
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i believe fitzmall in gaithersburg charges $600 for a supercharger install. it takes a full day atleast to do it.
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is a new clutch really necessary? im in this guys same shoes but im pretty sure i want to turbo it. i just wouldnt want to have to buy a new clutch haha
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the clutch is necessary because all stage 1 kits have a huge increase in torque, so if you don't upgrade your clutch, it will start slipping.

you don't need one for the supercharger, or the stage 0 per se because while the clutch won't immediately start slipping, but i think its life expectancy would be dramatically reduced.
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So from your professional POV is there any Stage 1 turbo and clutch your prefer...? Or would recommend? haha, you don't have to answer, you've been more patient than I could ask for, so thanks!

I'm not afraid to do the research, I just don't know where to start. I read up on the mechanics of superchargers and turbochargers but that hasn't helped me too much in terms of brands.
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hahahaha, i'm not a professional, i just have boost dreams and aspirations. i've heard good things about the zpi racing clutch, strong enough to hold any stage 1 turbo kit and even a stage 1.5 kit they offer.

i myself have a clutchmaster stage 3 clutch waiting for installation from technique garage.

as for turbokits, since you want a great warranty, i suggest turbonetics because they have in writing on their turbo kits, no fault, no hassle for one full year, even if you race.

dezod is really good because you can package alot of things with your turbo to reduce cost. you can get an s1 kit with a clutch for less than buying them separately.

you are lucky, your in virginia, you are very close to p-tuning down there in virginia. just call them up and tell them what your looking for and they can help you out far better than i can, and then install and tune your tc.
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lol put it this way...if u dont got 6 grand to seriously toss away...dont bother doin anything to the car, after a motor and a half, the TeRD ____charger is a piece of sh*t that is y im selling mine on ebay pretty soon lol but the best way to go is turbo if u got the dough!! so far the turbonetics kit has proven to be pretty reliable, considering its all bolt up and comes with everything u need. zpi is also good but u might still be waiting....as far as clutches...running 8psi a six puck would be ideal for racing, but that is if u dont mind sacrificing much of ur smooth driving...otherwise look at some clutch masters stage 3 or 2 w.e is before the six puck and defiantly get a flywheel, i personally love the fidanza
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Originally Posted by draxcaliber
yes you'll get more power, but you only be alittle faster than a stock tc. when you lose to a civic si, you'll be crying
They only way you should lose to a stock civic is with a stock s/c if you are a bad driver. I think the cars are both even. so it depends on who is the better driver. I beat an 06 civic is already when I was stock a s/c.

Anyway I know you going to want more power one day. you might say that's all you need for now but us as humans we are going to want more power real soon.
you have to ask yourself do you want more power or you going to happy with what you have now.

If you say you going to want more power, you have also have to ask yourself how much do you want to spend. with turbo you can more power with a low cost, with the s/c you can get more power but you will spend more then the price of a turbo kit.

I might be switching turbo soon. I think want to reach 350-400 whp mark with a rebuilt motor and turbo kit.

Anyway I'm off this thread, have a nice day guys
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Here's food for thought: do you really want to drive a 250+whp FWD tC? Think about it for a minute.
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Originally Posted by draxcaliber
you didn't look around hard enough. the supercharger is hardly reliable at all. all that money is wasted because yes you'll get more power, but you only be alittle faster than a stock tc. when you lose to a civic si, you'll be crying. the superchargers have a laundry list of problems. they SHOULD be covered under warranty if your car is 100% stock. some people have had their warranty voided in the wake of an sc problem because they didn't check their oil at ever gas fill up.

but no, you don't need anything other than the supercharger kit itself, no additional parts are needed if installed by dealership.

my advice is to instead get a zpi stage 0 with emanage, bov and gauges for monitoring. you'll be faster and more reliable than a supercharger. you won't have a warranty anymore though.

so in short, the superchager is junk.
It's funny how people comment about things without having any real facts or experience to back it up. Sure you can read the forums and make your judgements based upon other peoples experiences, but until you've had a supercharged tc and a turbo charged tc you can't make any sound judgements. I myself have the supercharger with 5,000 miles on it with no problems to speak of as of yet, however I will not jump on the forced induction boards and make claims for either supercharged or turbocharged, because I have yet to turbocharge my tc. It would be great if the criticisms made could be backed by real world experience. To call a product junk when you've never seen, heard, or felt it...well that speaks for itself.
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Originally Posted by draxcaliber
you didn't look around hard enough. the supercharger is hardly reliable at all. all that money is wasted because yes you'll get more power, but you only be alittle faster than a stock tc. when you lose to a civic si, you'll be crying. the superchargers have a laundry list of problems. they SHOULD be covered under warranty if your car is 100% stock. some people have had their warranty voided in the wake of an sc problem because they didn't check their oil at ever gas fill up.

LOL, maybe on a stock charger.

but no, you don't need anything other than the supercharger kit itself, no additional parts are needed if installed by dealership.

my advice is to instead get a zpi stage 0 with emanage, bov and gauges for monitoring. you'll be faster and more reliable than a supercharger. you won't have a warranty anymore though.

so in short, the superchager is junk.
The TRD "Vortech V5 F-Trim" Supercharger is not "junk." It's no more/less reliable than any Turbo kit out there. Everything needs to be taken car of. If you install a turbo kit and don't keep an eye on it, do you think thats any safer. Sure maybe the bracket design was junk, but they fixed that.

Basically, If like you say all you want is a little more pep, and reliability the TRD is A-OK. It gets a bad rep because the Transmission Mount Bracket was prone to breaking, but they fixed that with a sturdy replacement. I have no regrets in my choice.
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Originally Posted by VitViper
Here's food for thought: do you really want to drive a 250+whp FWD tC? Think about it for a minute.
Not sure if you're trying to say it's a waste or what? Cuz a Turbo Escort ...?... doesnt make much sense either.
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Originally Posted by 06SuperWhite_SoCal_tC
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Here's food for thought: do you really want to drive a 250+whp FWD tC? Think about it for a minute.
Not sure if you're trying to say it's a waste or what? Cuz a Turbo Escort ...?... doesnt make much sense either.
My ZX2 isn't my primary vehicle to work and back. Yes it makes a ton of power and as a result spins the wheels like there's no tomorrow (not cheap tires either, Pirelli's on 17x7 rims). I fully support tossing a turbo on a FWD and making ____loads of power, but do you really want to daily drive that? I'm under the assumption his tC is his DD, if not, forget I said anything. Even the 200whp or so of the TRD S/C is a little much for a FWD car.

(ps: ZX2 == 2400lb car with similar gearing to the tC, but with more usable RPM band, revs safely to 7k underboost. However being it's a "highly" modified vehicle that didn't come from the factory boosted it's a money sink, but oh do I love driving it when the urge to go fast comeson)
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