rhythmnsmoke

By the way forpinks, you should go back to that dealership and ask the S/C'er guy for time slips, since he can walk away from turbo's with ease. Curious to know what he runs.

MrScion07

yeah i been leaning towards the s/c'er but still would like that turbo under the hood hmmmmmm

Brett

a superchager in my opinion will never be able to compete with or make the same power as a turbo. simple as this. a supercharger steals power from your engine to spool. it has to be spun by your srpentine belt. think of it this way. what happens when you remove your alternator, ac pump, and water pump from a drag car?? you gain power right? thats cause the crankshaft can spin alot easier when it doesnt have to spin the serpentine belt. (this is why people get lightweight pulleys) now what do you think would happen if you started giving the serpentine system more pulleys to turn? its not gonna make as much power. with turbos, they are spooled off spent exaust gas. the engine barely looses power to make power with a turbo.

cessblood

I will say turbonetics or Descendent Turbo Kit if they ever come. World Racing said they making Descendent Turbo Kit for the new xB, the martix , the corolla and the scion tC.

Here is a link to a video of supercharger vs a turbocharger on the 1/8. The supercharged tC is white and the turbocharged is the black tC.

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu...eoID=892386899

garyc_01

back to the topic of this discussion "it all goes down how deep is your pocket" enough said. i dont hate either or i had a turbo car b4 and i just want to see what i could push out on a sc for the tc.. the money i have spent for my mods on the sc if was turbo i would make about 270-290whp.. with about same boost and the turbo guys could back me up with that...

guerro

Umm, yeah, that video is pretty much useless. Was that a camera phone ?

06SuperWhite_SoCal_tC

Dunno, but Garage netted a 9.22, which was the only other time ive seen in the same area as mine. Im sure as hell if Carl was on a well prepped track he would see close to mid 8's atleast.

rhythmnsmoke

I would beg to differ.

Brett

mid 8 1/8 mile is a high 12 sec 1/4
http://img152.imageshack.us/my.php?i...runsallrf8.jpg

1tc4u2nv

i believe that the problem with most SC TC owners-noticed i said most not all- is that they are so wrapped up on adding more power that they dont notice that they are only hurting themselves. For example, someone buys a tc then overnight that person adds a supercharger, i/h/e, sc pulleys, cams, tune,etc. next thing they know they are putting out 250-260whp and all of the sudden they want to go to the track to test it out and guess what, they pull a 14.8 1/4mile. So now they are all upset and want to sell the SC and buy a turbo or buy another car. What i'm trying to say is that it takes more than 2 passes at the track to get the most ot of the car. Before you add all these power adders, study your car, try to pick up the weaknesses and add the right modifications before you go all out on the motor. This is not intended for anyone in specific, just skeaking my mind.

cessblood

I dont know homie. I'm not the one who made the video.

cessblood

Good point. People need to study and add the right mods. Some people will add anything.

05-RS1

10 secs on 1/8 mile is pretty bad, esp. if your pushing 230+whp on the s/c. i'm auto s/c and my first time at the track i got 9.5s on the 1/8 with a 2.3 60'. the best 1/4 time i got my first time out was 14.8s =/.

agree with you 100%. putting good numbers out on the dyno is one thing, but getting the most of it out on the track is a different issue. many other things come into play when trying to get good track times such as traction, launchng, weight reduction, and for the 5spd guys, hitting those shift points.

garyc_01

guys my 1st time on track was just a supercharger and draxsas spipe back exhaust that i installed few weeks b4 10-16-06 scion vip, last time i went down i went on the 1/8th mile was the last scion vip at e-town but i was learnin how to launch right and that is and durin that time i was runnin sc, pulley, full exhaust and meth and intake didnt care about time was just learn the car down 1st, now this time im goin down with full bolt ons and tuned, i dont know what is the out come yet.. but will let you know on the 30th if i get there on time... also when the 1st time on track i raced a buddy of mine and i won everytime and he had full exhaust and 9.5psi, so even if u have all the power there is and u cant control it its worthless, so.. i think i should just take the 10.1 1/8th mile out cause every1 is gettin confused stock sc with just exhaust 1st time and now no clue havent went down the track to see wat i run..

and i do agree with 1tc4u

im just gonna do cams and then stop...
for power output after that is clutch, fly and lsd,
sus.. with brakes last

rhythmnsmoke

Exactly, I just don't see a 311whp and less tQ Supercharged tC doing that. I would have to see that with my own eyes.

318_tC

ill race a s/c!

I wanna see some quick S/C ....have any hit 13's yet?

rhythmnsmoke

We have YET to see one run 13's. Icenine's car could do it. But the key word is "could". Still has to be done.

318_tC

damn

forpinks

How fast can a 3500 bucks make you if you install an SC yourself?

What add ons can make 250+ whp? Also will adding an EMS, larger fuel injectors or Emanage void the Toyota warranty?

rhythmnsmoke

I'm going to have to lean heavily on the YES side for voiding your warranty. It's not fair, but the dealer is very good at screwing people over by blaming mods you do, so they can skip out of the warranty work.

How fast for 3500 is subjective to how you utilize that money, what mods you do, and from what company you do them.