B_Real45

Then you should say you haven't had good luck with them.. and not that they suck. But you can't deny they must be reputable and trustworthy if cars that cost hundreds of thousands of dollars to design and build rely on them.

CarbonXe

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Alright fine, then I'll stay away from Autometer because of what I've seen of them. But regardless, I'm still right that depending on how complete and well put together everything is, prices can get well over $8,000.

The funny thing about all this, is that I bet the people saying anything over $5,000 is a ripoff think that I spent this much, when in reality, I've come to a total of about $2,200 including tires and tune.

paul_dezod

They are selling our turbo assembly, which is shown here on our site:

http://www.dezod.com/pd_dezod_motors...esmanifold.cfm

These are meant for the more advanced tuner, who wants to do their own charge piping, intercooler, bov, fuel and engine management.

They are simply a wholesale account of ours.

JL56TC

welll lets ask the source... paul do you think you can build a reliable TTC for 4-5500k... using your base maps of course... and saying that evrything went smoothly

CarbonXe

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I can't believe you're still trying to say that a turbo kit will and should never cost more than $5,500. Also, I can't believe that you still don't understand the concept of ranges.

paul_dezod

Our S1 is $3999 and is all you will need to make decent reliable power and install yourself. Spend a few hundred on a good tune, and bam...............Instant power.

CarbonXe

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Add in a tune, gauges and exhaust, and you're exactly in the price range I stated. Thank you Paul.

JL56TC

no my kit has well supased that ... however I dont want you to scare the peep who are thinking about buying a kit to think there going to spend 8k .... just embrase the fact that there TTC..... help them out ... maybe you can save them a few $$$$... but dont tell them ... "well thats going to cost you 8k to do it righ... each person has there way of doing it... thats what makes then unique form all the other ttc.... if they made a ( compleate, this is the way you have to do it kit) no one would wanna buy it. Basically dont knock people and say your doing it wrong just becouse thay dont spend as much $$$ as you do... or becouse they dont go out and spend 800 on guages... it just means there diff than you... my sheit worked great when I fist got my S1 kit.... and I didnt spend that much on it... I got a group buy I saved $ by taping my own pan I tuned it myself.....well I have a dyno so that doesnt count but still man dont scare people into thinking that there going to spend an exuberant amount of money to turbo there TC

aen

seriously? it WILL cost more than 5500 unless you cut corners which we all know where that ends up

JL56TC

but for what.... you dont need to .... its nice to do it like that buyt with the economy the way it is do you honestly think people ar going to go out and buy a brand new p tuning exahust... dump there old on which they paid at least 25o for go buy 800 worth of guages..... (becouse the $30 autometer that are used by pros) just arnt good enough GTF out.... and if your paying 4k for some guages, exahust and a tune your crazy.......4+4=8 incase you needed to do that on paper... your right that was mean ill give you some credit 5+3=8....

JL56TC

thats true... but remember how this conversation sterted.... were talking about the basics.... paul clearly said $3999 for an S1 you shouldnt be spending 4k getting it to work

CarbonXe

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How am I scaring people? I simply said $5,000 to $8,000. $5,000 being the lower end (Simple/S1 kit + tune + exhaust + gauges) and $8,000 being the higher end (v2.1/T.E.A + tune + PTuning exhaust + Defi/AEM gauges). Not everyone wants the minimum stuff.

Also, saying that it should never cost more than $5,000 brings in the 'boosting on a budget' issue, because if someone who doesn't know what he or she is doing, could save up $5,000, buy everything, and then if something goes wrong, they're ____ed.

I opted to spend top dollar on a PTuning exhaust because that's what I wanted. I hate the angled tip and coffee can look, and didn't want to deal with having a custom exhaust fabricated correctly (I just don't trust shops for that stuff).

I opted to spend a good amount ($480 with a new e-Pod) on my gauges, because I've seen first hand cheap gauges fall apart.

I'm not saying you're doing it wrong because you ended up at about $5,000. Doing it wrong is trying to save money here and there, aka boosting on a budget. IMO, doing it right, is taking 0 shortcuts, having bank for future problems, and having confidence in the kit. I see so many people saying that they're worried that something will go wrong. In theory, nothing should go wrong if you do everything the way it should be done.

CarbonXe

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$4000 for a S1
$400 for a custom exhaust
$300 for the cheapest possible gauges
$400 for the cheapest possible professional tune
$400 for a clutch, self installed.

$5,500. Tell me right now, that $5,500 is not in between $5,000 and $8,000. If you can tell me that the number 5,500 is not IN BETWEEN 5,000 and 8,000, I highly suggest you go back to elementary school math.

CarbonXe

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No, this conversation started with my statement, which says NOTHING about basic kits.

JL56TC

which nothing was said about internals just a basic bolt on kit which is what I started out with.

so there you have it... I did mine for under 5 but i would agree generally it will cost you roughly 5500.... I admit it i was wrong there.... I just think 8 for a basic start is a little much.... lets re word this 5-6k for a basic starter bolt on kit.... not saying you cant add later but thats basically what I think it should cost

CarbonXe

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I'm not saying 8,000 is what people should spend on a basic kit. TBH, I think people should expect to spend $8,000 in case something happens, but that's a different story. The $8,000 was a reference to the bigger kits, with ball bearing turbos and an equal length manifold.

JL56TC

agreed