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Old 04-27-2009, 02:24 PM
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What do you guys think of the cai setup?
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i give those ******* 4 thumbs down, velocity stack homes.
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I have that setup for sometime, i did thorough comparison on it..

here's what I find out..

1. not much benefit from it, the long pipes and bends reduces air flow as compressor sucks air.. not by much compared to regular short ram intake pipe but a considerable amount compared to intake pipeless turbo setup..

2. Difference in intake temp improves but doesnt stay that way very long.. as you use the car longer, the entire pipe would heat up too so after time it would be the same inlet temps as the short ram style setup

I also noticed you have smaller intake pipe near the compressor so more restrictions right there.. with a shorter pipe CAI it might work..
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I like the style of it but as ace said thers just not enough benefit from it...maybe if you wraped it up in some insulation maybe might make it a little better.
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the distance reduces the effectiveness of it. no go.
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Originally Posted by SoFloTC
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p-tuning does the exact same thing
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it doesnt look bad really, i actually like the look.. but yeah ptuning use it except its a huge 4" and short straight pipe that doesnt give a lot of flow restiction
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Originally Posted by Ace83
I have that setup for sometime, i did thorough comparison on it..

here's what I find out..

1. not much benefit from it, the long pipes and bends reduces air flow as compressor sucks air.. not by much compared to regular short ram intake pipe but a considerable amount compared to intake pipeless turbo setup..

2. Difference in intake temp improves but doesnt stay that way very long.. as you use the car longer, the entire pipe would heat up too so after time it would be the same inlet temps as the short ram style setup

I also noticed you have smaller intake pipe near the compressor so more restrictions right there.. with a shorter pipe CAI it might work..
so basically no loss but no gain either?
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i did not do a before and after dyno.. i did dyno with it and i dont see any huge lag on the powerband and i do notice a little lag when i first installed it, its something you wouldnt notice after few days.. but after i removed the spool was faster, im not sure if its just the sound that made me say that but yeah an intakeless turbo is way better
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ok so because p tuning does it, that doesnt mean its the best thing to do? and ptunings is ALOT shorter than that going a different route i believe. spool is quicker the shorter you go, honestly put the filter on the turbo and do a blowby setup..
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Originally Posted by crush02342002
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p-tuning does the exact same thing

Not even close though to this. PTuning's intake is STRAIGHT, with a direct flow from the outside and it's positioned below the engine thus more effectively producing colder temps than this setup I would imagine.
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how much longer you got till you finish topeka?
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Okay, I thought I'd chime in here since several posts point to our intake design.

As some have pointed out, our intake tube is 4" in diameter and makes a very short and straight shot to the compressor inlet. As a matter of fact, you can probably stick your hand through the intake tube to spin the compressor blade.

IMO, the length and diameter used for your CAI will more than likely negate any of the benefits of a CAI filter location. Think drinking a milkshake through s soda straw.

With that said though, I do have to say that you did a good job with making your set-up look clean. Good luck with your build.

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yeah it looks like you have a 2.5" intake right after the compressor inlet, i used full 3" pipe a noticed a bit of lag.. you might feel the restrictions even more.. but if you wanna stay with that setup, its not a problem, you're not gonna lose tons of HP
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setup will be done tonite minus a few minor things. intake is 2.5 to 2.75. My ic piping has a blow thru maf mount but i think it is too high to get an accurate reading
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The temperature difference is completely negated when the air is compressed.
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Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
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p-tuning does the exact same thing

Not even close though to this. PTuning's intake is STRAIGHT, with a direct flow from the outside and it's positioned below the engine thus more effectively producing colder temps than this setup I would imagine.
I was commenting on the "style"...it just looked pretty clean like the p-tuning intake pipe. Dont get ____y on me Trav
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Originally Posted by crush02342002
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p-tuning does the exact same thing

Not even close though to this. PTuning's intake is STRAIGHT, with a direct flow from the outside and it's positioned below the engine thus more effectively producing colder temps than this setup I would imagine.
I was commenting on the "style"...it just looked pretty clean like the p-tuning intake pipe. Dont get ____y on me Trav

I wasn't ...... It's just that when you read the description of Ptuning's intake about it being straight, less curves being a direct flow to the compressor...etc, couldn't help but to think this guys setup is not as efficient. To many bends and length of the tube.
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there are actually only 2 bends
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