Turbotoyotas TX Style!! broked axle!
#321
No didnt have problem contacting tony, he responded to my email fast but i havent decided on the hydra yet that time and was with emanage which tony doesnt tune anymore. T1 might be a plan very soon but I will not judge yet that i have a bad tune. I know the guy can tune and even him was surprised to have those low numbers there could be issues i need to look into, maybe leaks or something and im getting an updated map.
And yeah I dont think its the manifold, there is a only slight difference of the 2.1 from original and you can see from the design itself that its not restrictive. And yeah these are mustang numbers and expected low so it should be around 250 at least with others, still low though even the tuner agrees but still working to find out why aside from the tune.
Also I went as high as 10 psi, i think it spiked to 10.7 if im right.. I revved as high as 6400, but I will try look at the tune again and try to have it compared with other hydras.
And yeah I dont think its the manifold, there is a only slight difference of the 2.1 from original and you can see from the design itself that its not restrictive. And yeah these are mustang numbers and expected low so it should be around 250 at least with others, still low though even the tuner agrees but still working to find out why aside from the tune.
Also I went as high as 10 psi, i think it spiked to 10.7 if im right.. I revved as high as 6400, but I will try look at the tune again and try to have it compared with other hydras.
#322
Todd...why don't you post up a new sheet from my car I think you said toni got it pushing out better then what it was at?
Then you can put the new manifild on it and do another run to prove the new manifold is better...just a thought (and new manifold for me! )
Then you can put the new manifild on it and do another run to prove the new manifold is better...just a thought (and new manifold for me! )
#324
Originally Posted by TurboToyotas
Again...Tuning is the most important part of the equation, no matter how good or how bad the quality of the turbo components are.
Regards-
Todd
Regards-
Todd
LOL.....I find that comment hilarious. Nothing against you, just having flash backs to whenever someone had a 16G turbine, and something were of an issue, it was 100% always the "Chinese Knock-off" turbo at fault.
.....My windshield washer is not squirting?
----Damn Chinese knock off turbo is your problem...
#325
Originally Posted by Mr_Meaty
Todd...why don't you post up a new sheet from my car I think you said toni got it pushing out better then what it was at?
Then you can put the new manifild on it and do another run to prove the new manifold is better...just a thought (and new manifold for me! )
Then you can put the new manifild on it and do another run to prove the new manifold is better...just a thought (and new manifold for me! )
So what's the numbers on yours?
#326
And just for the record....everyone talking about the tune this and tune that, and making it be the ONLY culprit to the low numbers.
Just for the record, I had LOW 10's A/F (10.2 - 10.4 ) ratio and at 7 ish PSI, STILL put down more hp than this car. Let alone being at 10 PSI.
Just for the record, I had LOW 10's A/F (10.2 - 10.4 ) ratio and at 7 ish PSI, STILL put down more hp than this car. Let alone being at 10 PSI.
#327
Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
And just for the record....everyone talking about the tune this and tune that, and making it be the ONLY culprit to the low numbers.
Just for the record, I had LOW 10's A/F (10.2 - 10.4 ) ratio and at 7 ish PSI, STILL put down more hp than this car. Let alone being at 10 PSI.
Just for the record, I had LOW 10's A/F (10.2 - 10.4 ) ratio and at 7 ish PSI, STILL put down more hp than this car. Let alone being at 10 PSI.
#329
Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
LOL.....I find that comment hilarious. Nothing against you, just having flash backs to whenever someone had a 16G turbine, and something were of an issue, it was 100% always the "Chinese Knock-off" turbo at fault.
.....My windshield washer is not squirting?
----Damn Chinese knock off turbo is your problem...
.....My windshield washer is not squirting?
----Damn Chinese knock off turbo is your problem...
I don't know what my new numbers are, which is why i want Todd to post them! He just said it did better then before.
And with the tuning, your kit was designed to basically run off the stock ECU, this one is not. Your AFRs alone are not indicitave of a tune...there are many other aspects. For example, my old tune had consistent cruizing AFRs, and were good in boost as well, but if I stayed in boost to long, it would drop, and I'd have random bogging issues if I floored it in 4th after cruizing for a little. That's all tune related as well.
Oh, and I think Todd mentioned before about the version 2.1 mani having a larger diameter, less bends and better welds, or something like that.
#330
Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
^^Yeah, Do Work Son! Hehee... Maybe when I get down to Houston for my Hydra tune, we could meet up Ace.
Anyweiz stuff im going to look at:
1. No manifold to turbo gasket- possible leak?
2. 3" PVC pipe placed on the air filter so it would clamp better to the intake pipe- possible flow obstruction
3. Anodized IC, possibly less efficient, dont know how much
4. boost leak on IC clamps and pipes
5. correct injector size
#331
Originally Posted by Ace83
Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
^^Yeah, Do Work Son! Hehee... Maybe when I get down to Houston for my Hydra tune, we could meet up Ace.
Anyweiz stuff im going to look at:
1. No manifold to turbo gasket- possible leak?
2. 3" PVC pipe placed on the air filter so it would clamp better to the intake pipe- possible flow obstruction
3. Anodized IC, possibly less efficient, dont know how much
4. boost leak on IC clamps and pipes
5. correct injector size
Oh, it's still 6 hrs for you to get to Turbochargers.com? Dang.
1) yeah, I don't know to many NOT running a gasket there.
2) I need pics of that. Having a hard time following that description, or understanding why it is that you need a 3" PVC pipe placed on the air filter.
3) That shouldn't be a problem
4) That would be a problem
5) What size are your injectors?
PS....just thought I would add that Kenny has most likely tuned more turbo tC's than anyone on this site, or anyone that is recommened by turbo kit manufactures on this site.
---Keep in mind, I did not say has more tuning experience than any of the recommened shops(cause I don't know how many years he's been in the game, it's a a long time though), I said he has tuned more turbo tC's than anyone. And that list includes Emange, Emange Ultimate, Hydra, and AEM.
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Does it not come with a gasket or something? lol, there should be a gasket between all metal-metal..
And the painted IC would result in less efficiency, but only by like 2-3%, at most, 2whp.
And the painted IC would result in less efficiency, but only by like 2-3%, at most, 2whp.
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^^It's anodized though instead of just straight up paint. So, I wouldn't think it would even be less efficient than an non-anadozided one. The layer produced from anodization is so micro in coat that I wouldn't think it would even loose 1 whp.
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Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
^^It's anodized though instead of just straight up paint. So, I wouldn't think it would even be less efficient than an non-anadozided one. The layer produced from anodization is so micro in coat that I wouldn't think it would even loose 1 whp.
#336
Originally Posted by Ace83
I will take a pic of the filter when i get a chance dont think its a prob though, injectors are 550s supposedly but not sure of true size but kenny thougth it might be bigger..
#337
Originally Posted by CarbonXe
Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
^^It's anodized though instead of just straight up paint. So, I wouldn't think it would even be less efficient than an non-anadozided one. The layer produced from anodization is so micro in coat that I wouldn't think it would even loose 1 whp.
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Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
Originally Posted by Ace83
I will take a pic of the filter when i get a chance dont think its a prob though, injectors are 550s supposedly but not sure of true size but kenny thougth it might be bigger..