First off...i've been using like crazy the search engine on these forums maybe looking for a similar setup of what i'm going to be getting. i've finally given up and decided to simply post a topic and ask. Im acquiring a Treadstone Turbo kit, which will come with the Emanage from GReddy, GReddy Boost controller, and the kit itself. however, the seller also had a Unichip that he was going to install himself, but never did. I've found a shop near my house that can tune out the Unichip, however, as far as i'm concerned, or have understood, i'm going to have two different EMSystems controlling the boost of my vehicle. I am looking to setup with 2 different setups, one for daily driving 225whp (7-9psi), and competition which i'll do as much HP as i can on my stock setup along with a turbo (according to Treadstone its turbo can do 325HP on a stock setup, i'd like to set that up for competition). I know how the turbo works on the engine, its physics and the likes, i am just a bit clueless on the EMSystems that i am planning on acquiring. hopefully u guys wont bash me with a "look it up" statements.

*hides in corner, waiting for for replies*

 

Don't know about unichip, but the emanage ultimate allows you to store two seperate tunes (Street or Race) that can be switched with an external toggle switch. Go one or the other, but running Unichip and eManage together will be a tuning nightmare, a pain to wire up and probably not get you anything extra. Ultimate also has data logging for up to 30 channels, useful to plug an A/F meter into and plot it against RPM.

 

Hmmm I see. But let me ask you this…wouldn’t the Unichip take care of the ECU, and Emanage the actual turbo setup. Again, pardon my ignorance but this uncertainty in my mind has got to end.

 

No just use one. The emanage doesnt control the actual turbo set-up. It controls the ECU. You can waste your money if you want.....

 

There is no "turbo setup" black box. EMS (eManage or Unichip) basically controls your timing and injector duty cycle so thast you can maintain a decent air fuel ratio without boost under low RPM and with boost once the turbo spools. I have a supercharger and not a turbo, so I am not familiar with the exact mechanics of the boost controller, but you wouldn't want the Unichip and eManage modifying the same injector and ignition signals. Also, it would be twice as expensive to tune two systems, changes in one would affect the other, and if i was a tuner I wouldn't touch that setup. I'm not a tuner, so check your local shop, find out which one they are more comfortable with, and stick with just one. It does seem that if you plan on moving anytime soon there are more shops available to tune eManage than Unichip.

 

made up my mind...the emanage has to be custom fit my turbo kit and the Treadstone website just updated their site after i called since they dont recommend the eManage for the 06 tc, due to the fact that, according to them, it needs splicing on the wires, and the Unichip does not. gosh! thats a weight of my shoulders. i guess i now have to focus on which boost is considered safe for competition on the tc's stock engine after the Unichip has been placed. i guess that'll be up to the Unichip programmer.

 

Well I just installed the Treadstone Kit on my 08 last nite really haven't had a chance to drive it yet not because of install but because of all the d@mn snow we got up here in PA. But for a little enlightenment on how the Treadstone Kit works check this thread on one of the other scion forum sites http://www.yoursciontc.com/forums/in...opic=15444&hl=

It helped me understand better. Hope this helps you.

 

there's a plug and play harness for the eman. ult. costs a pretty penny but it's worth saving you the trouble. like someone else said the EMU is able to have two maps that can be your "street" and "race" move..i havent been able to figure out how to use that yet but whichever one you go with, you could always just have your tuner first tune a nice DD map for you, save it, and then from there make a more aggressive map. run the DD map normally, and when your out at the track or something load up the more aggressive tune.

 

I have had them both. I like the GReddy Ultimate Emanage better then the Unichip. There more tuners out there that can tune the GReddy Ultimate Emanage plus it has different setting for your DD ride around town durning the week and you can set it for to be a track ***** on the weekend. but treadstone said it on their website they don't want to buyer to use a piggyback system with their turbo kit or something like that.

 

i honestly cant wait to get this going. i'm getting the kit shipped to me this weekend along with the Unichip. i also got me a greddy boost controller and a greddy turbo timer. my goal is to be as aggressive as possible, as safe and as conservative as possible. i, and i'm pretty sure you guys feel the same way, dont want to ruin my stock block/engine setup, in case i must get rid of the car. which i honestly dont intend to...but you never know if a 08 Skyline GTR is all of the sudden affordable by an average shmoe. then again, i have a goal so far and that is to beat my 2 best friends with this kit. they bring a G35 i/h/e and a WRX with an hks bov, and exhaust to the game. any up front tuning options u guys can suggest with this setup i'm getting?

 

Having a boost controller and a turbo timer will help tremendously with being "safe" on a turbo set up. And if you have a guy to tune the unichip, go with the unichip, cuz it can be hard to find a tuner for the emanage.

Just get your car tuned right, don't worry about the difference in street and race tune becasue you can only put one tune on the unichip I believe. If you want to race then turn up the boost.

 

so turn it up huh? as simple as that? i can understand why they say boost is addictive. i plan eventually to get the NX's Ntercooler Chiller, for an extra 50hp...but how much is too much boost on this kit?

 

you can set up the unichip to have 2 separate maps... i think munch may have done it with his old tC

 

what do u mean by that?

 

i think = my impression...
munch = a guy on this forum...
may have done it before = was executed by him in his build.

 

Did you try to run two separate maps on yours? Did Munch or you have the Unichip Q? I had the Unichip GP series that allow me to run with one map with the on and off switch to from factory tune to custom tune.

 

Gotcha! were could i find this prospect?

 

Did you say you were getting the emanage ULTIMATE or the basic emanage blue? The unichip is a far better unit if you can find a tuner for it, and make sure about tuning costs first as tuning the unichip is more expensive as well.

 

how much am i gonna be looking at?

 

tuning for the AEM F/IC (what I recomend) or either Greddy unit should be around $350. Not sure what a unichip tune would run.