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08-15-2008, 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by CarbonXe
B16's are over rated.
B18 with B16 head is another story.
Also, the B16A stock redline is 8200. Nothing special about that.
B16A - 8200
B16A1 - 8200
B16A2 - 8200
B16A3 - ??? Only used in Del Sol
B16A4 - 8200
B16B - 9200
Actually, the B16B produces 180BHP, so that would turn out to around 160WHP.
Oh, and fix your wiper.
B18 with B16 head is another story.
Also, the B16A stock redline is 8200. Nothing special about that.
B16A - 8200
B16A1 - 8200
B16A2 - 8200
B16A3 - ??? Only used in Del Sol
B16A4 - 8200
B16B - 9200
Originally Posted by walkerTEXranger
There is not a single B16 in this world that dyno's at 160 whp stock..... Hi aen <3. Also The crx if it is just adding BFG's It should only be in the mid to high 13s, 12s is a stretch with that setup. The car most likely weighs in around 1900lbs.
Oh, and fix your wiper.
His B16 is faster than his friends B20. I'm not sure which B16 version he has. But as mentioned, it is chipped too.
And my wiper is just fine the way it is.
PS....you think you could beat it?
08-15-2008, 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by CarbonXe
1, did I say it was slow? No. You're over hyping it.
2, LOL @ B20
3, Fix your wiper.
Stop hating...lol, j/k.
Just a little more info on his B16 CRX.
Talked to him a bit ago, his CRX without Nitrous is pushing 170whp. With the 75 shot 220whp.
When he had the 55shot he took out
- G35
- A supercharged Lexsus SC w/ 320whp. (He beat him at the track).
I didn't ask him what rpm his Vtec kicks in, his car is more optimized to run on spray than just the motor.
08-15-2008, 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
Originally Posted by brett561tc
Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
Oh, when I said he ran 8.8 in the 1/8th mile, that was on 17inch street tires.
He just ordered some BFG's, and expecting to hit low 13's to high 12's with his current setup, just to put things into perspective on how his car runs.
He just ordered some BFG's, and expecting to hit low 13's to high 12's with his current setup, just to put things into perspective on how his car runs.
That's why he bought the BFG's, to have them before next weekend. I won't have tires, but he will be on DR's. I will bring the camera to get his runs recorded.
The 8.8 1/8th mile IS at a drag strip...
...unless the idea of posting how fast your car really is scares you.
08-15-2008, 04:27 PM
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by the way. did his zpi kit blow up his motor or something? it just doesnt seem very rational that someone would take apart a perfectly fine motor without having the parts or money to build a new one.
08-15-2008, 04:27 PM
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I'm not hating on the B20, I don't have to hate when the motor is a genuine piece of ____. It's a ____ing CR-V motor. Should have gone with a B18C5 W/ a B16 head. 220BHP BEFORE bolt ons.
08-15-2008, 05:42 PM
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He prob got the B20 for a few hundred bucks and thought the longer stroke would be better haha...
Oh well, not my head ache lol...
Oh well, not my head ache lol...
08-15-2008, 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe_Dezod
He prob got the B20 for a few hundred bucks and thought the longer stroke would be better haha...
Oh well, not my head ache lol...
Oh well, not my head ache lol...
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08-15-2008, 06:00 PM
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Without the revs too hahaha...
My favorite honda swap was the LS VTEC. Those things were cheap and made great power. AKA the B18 with the B16 head... Dependin on the car it was instant low 14s high 13s for only a couple grand. Not bad.
My favorite honda swap was the LS VTEC. Those things were cheap and made great power. AKA the B18 with the B16 head... Dependin on the car it was instant low 14s high 13s for only a couple grand. Not bad.
08-15-2008, 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe_Dezod
Without the revs too hahaha...
My favorite honda swap was the LS VTEC. Those things were cheap and made great power. AKA the B18 with the B16 head... Dependin on the car it was instant low 14s high 13s for only a couple grand. Not bad.
My favorite honda swap was the LS VTEC. Those things were cheap and made great power. AKA the B18 with the B16 head... Dependin on the car it was instant low 14s high 13s for only a couple grand. Not bad.
Originally Posted by CarbonXe
B18 with B16 head is another story.
Without hybrids, I'd just stick with a B18C5.
As much as I dislike Hondas, I know quite a bit about their motors. I think it's more that I hate the drivers than the cars...
08-15-2008, 06:13 PM
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Yeah I know you posted that... I typed it quick but I meant it to come off as me agreeing with you lol.
I had an EM2 that I loved that ran a 14.5 at 97mp, and got about 32mpg. That to me is a good daily driver lol. Most owners are unintelligent or too young and immature.
I had an EM2 that I loved that ran a 14.5 at 97mp, and got about 32mpg. That to me is a good daily driver lol. Most owners are unintelligent or too young and immature.
08-15-2008, 06:48 PM
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my friend has a B20 w/ gsr head, and a chipped p28 i/h/e in an eg coupe and that thing moves!
B20s are good for what they can bring to the table, only downfall is thin cylinder walls, not good for boost or spray
gsr block with b16 head is a poor mans type R, next best thing to the acctual b18c5 motor
B20s are good for what they can bring to the table, only downfall is thin cylinder walls, not good for boost or spray
gsr block with b16 head is a poor mans type R, next best thing to the acctual b18c5 motor
08-15-2008, 07:54 PM
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"Actually, the B16B produces 180BHP, so that would turn out to around 160WHP. "
You really think it only loses 20hp threw the drive train? Also this is not a ctr motor like you are talking about this is a obd1 b16 that is rated at 170 and they usually dyno stock in the 140s.
This is a B16a with a gsr head and IM/TB/tuned on chrome
this is a mild built B16 so you are kinda off on your thoughts on what a b16 does
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JDM B16A w/ TODA Spec-A cams and bolt-on parts (Dyno inside) « » 5:21 PM 2/10/2007 Reply Edit
Spec of the motor setup:
JDM B16A (stock block)
99 Civic Si B16A2 Head
Buddy Club 0.4mm Head Gasket
Buddy Club Cam Gears
TODA Spec-A Camshafts
JDM ITR Valves
Supertech Dual Valvesprings
Supertech Titanium Retainers
ITR Throttle Body (port matched w/ manifold)
AEBS Intake Manifold
NextGear Intake Manifold Gasket
K&N Filter with BPi Velocity Stack
Edelbrock Pro-Flo Header
SMSP 300 Cell Catalytic Converter
A'PEXi Dunk Exhaust
NGK Iridium Spark plugs
NGK Spark Plug Wires
AEM Fuel Pressure Regulator
Mr. Gasket Gsport Fuel Rail
Hondata S100 + P28
Tuned by SGT
Stock Fuel pump, Injectors
Also if you can find a c5 with a B16 head that dynos at 220whp, I would give you a cookie.
You really think it only loses 20hp threw the drive train? Also this is not a ctr motor like you are talking about this is a obd1 b16 that is rated at 170 and they usually dyno stock in the 140s.
This is a B16a with a gsr head and IM/TB/tuned on chrome
this is a mild built B16 so you are kinda off on your thoughts on what a b16 does
mods on that dyno
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JDM B16A w/ TODA Spec-A cams and bolt-on parts (Dyno inside) « » 5:21 PM 2/10/2007 Reply Edit
Spec of the motor setup:
JDM B16A (stock block)
99 Civic Si B16A2 Head
Buddy Club 0.4mm Head Gasket
Buddy Club Cam Gears
TODA Spec-A Camshafts
JDM ITR Valves
Supertech Dual Valvesprings
Supertech Titanium Retainers
ITR Throttle Body (port matched w/ manifold)
AEBS Intake Manifold
NextGear Intake Manifold Gasket
K&N Filter with BPi Velocity Stack
Edelbrock Pro-Flo Header
SMSP 300 Cell Catalytic Converter
A'PEXi Dunk Exhaust
NGK Iridium Spark plugs
NGK Spark Plug Wires
AEM Fuel Pressure Regulator
Mr. Gasket Gsport Fuel Rail
Hondata S100 + P28
Tuned by SGT
Stock Fuel pump, Injectors
Also if you can find a c5 with a B16 head that dynos at 220whp, I would give you a cookie.
08-15-2008, 08:13 PM
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Like I said, a B16B, it produces 10 more hp than the B16A/A1. Also, the GSR head is LESS efficient than the B16 head. If you read my post, you would have seen that I was talking about the B16B, not the B16A.
Again, you mis-read my post regarding the B18C5 w/ B16 head, I said BRAKEhp, notWHEELhp.
Another thing, it all depends on the dyno. I've seen stock tC's put down 145 stock, which is less than a 10% drop. If a B16B (180BHP) lost 12% thru the drivetrain, it would put down 160whp.
And 1 more thing. A B16A w/ B16A2 head only makes around 155-160hp, which is already starting out at 20BHP LESS than the B16B.
Directly out of Wiki, so we don't have any more confusion regarding WHP/BHP
Again, you mis-read my post regarding the B18C5 w/ B16 head, I said BRAKEhp, notWHEELhp.
Another thing, it all depends on the dyno. I've seen stock tC's put down 145 stock, which is less than a 10% drop. If a B16B (180BHP) lost 12% thru the drivetrain, it would put down 160whp.
And 1 more thing. A B16A w/ B16A2 head only makes around 155-160hp, which is already starting out at 20BHP LESS than the B16B.
Directly out of Wiki, so we don't have any more confusion regarding WHP/BHP
Brake horsepower
Brake horsepower (bhp) is the measure of an engine's horsepower without the loss in power caused by the gearbox, generator, differential, water pump, and other auxiliary components such as alternator, power steering, and AC compressor. Thus the prefix "brake" refers to where the power is measured: at the engine's output shaft, as on an engine dynamometer. The actual horsepower delivered to the driving wheels is less. An engine would have to be retested to obtain a rating in another system. The term "brake" refers to the original use of a band brake to measure torque during the test (which is multiplied by the engine RPM and a scaling constant to give horsepower).
Brake horsepower (bhp) is the measure of an engine's horsepower without the loss in power caused by the gearbox, generator, differential, water pump, and other auxiliary components such as alternator, power steering, and AC compressor. Thus the prefix "brake" refers to where the power is measured: at the engine's output shaft, as on an engine dynamometer. The actual horsepower delivered to the driving wheels is less. An engine would have to be retested to obtain a rating in another system. The term "brake" refers to the original use of a band brake to measure torque during the test (which is multiplied by the engine RPM and a scaling constant to give horsepower).
08-15-2008, 10:37 PM
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Tell your friend to swap a k20 in that crx travis, and boost it. I doubt youll beat him. haha
08-15-2008, 11:45 PM
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i wish dyltone was here
hed know what to say
hed know what to say
08-15-2008, 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted by brett561tc
Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
Originally Posted by brett561tc
Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
Oh, when I said he ran 8.8 in the 1/8th mile, that was on 17inch street tires.
He just ordered some BFG's, and expecting to hit low 13's to high 12's with his current setup, just to put things into perspective on how his car runs.
He just ordered some BFG's, and expecting to hit low 13's to high 12's with his current setup, just to put things into perspective on how his car runs.
That's why he bought the BFG's, to have them before next weekend. I won't have tires, but he will be on DR's. I will bring the camera to get his runs recorded.
The 8.8 1/8th mile IS at a drag strip...
...unless the idea of posting how fast your car really is scares you.
LOL....I must be doing something wrong if a stock with fart can could keep up even that close....
And haven't we already been through this? I'm still waiting on that tracking number on those slicks you were suppose to ship.
08-15-2008, 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by brett561tc
by the way. did his zpi kit blow up his motor or something? it just doesnt seem very rational that someone would take apart a perfectly fine motor without having the parts or money to build a new one.
NO, his ZPI kit did not blow up his motor. He mis-shifted and spun a rod bearing. Easy how the correct information gets twisted.
08-15-2008, 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Whocares05050
Tell your friend to swap a k20 in that crx travis, and boost it. I doubt youll beat him. haha
If not, click the boost ****... 
08-16-2008, 12:00 AM
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Originally Posted by olaHalo
i wish dyltone was here
hed know what to say
hed know what to say
Wow...