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05-30-2007, 05:34 PM
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Also, why would they need the methanol injection? The only reason anyone runs meth is to "lower" their necessary octane for a given amount of boost. Stage Zero at 6 psi would definitely run on pump gas so maybe they were running some stupid amount of boost with no intercooler, that's where the meth comes in.
05-30-2007, 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Whocares05050
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Also, why would they need the methanol injection? The only reason anyone runs meth is to "lower" their necessary octane for a given amount of boost. Stage Zero at 6 psi would definitely run on pump gas so maybe they were running some stupid amount of boost with no intercooler, that's where the meth comes in.
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05-30-2007, 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by nebster
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Also, why would they need the methanol injection? The only reason anyone runs meth is to "lower" their necessary octane for a given amount of boost. Stage Zero at 6 psi would definitely run on pump gas so maybe they were running some stupid amount of boost with no intercooler, that's where the meth comes in.
05-30-2007, 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Dyltone
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AJ, I guess you'll never stop. 
Meth injection increases octane not lowering it. They may not of needed it but remember they had to prepare for the next rounds also. It's a game and they had to prepare for the future.
Meth injection increases octane not lowering it. They may not of needed it but remember they had to prepare for the next rounds also. It's a game and they had to prepare for the future.
Originally Posted by dyltone
Also, why would they need the methanol injection? The only reason anyone runs meth is to "lower" their necessary octane for a given amount of boost. Stage Zero at 6 psi would definitely run on pump gas so maybe they were running some stupid amount of boost with no intercooler, that's where the meth comes in.
if you run 300hp on 93 octane and you want 400hp, you'll need race gas or you run 93 octane plus meth injection to achieve your goal.
Anything incorrect about that statement?
(The only reason anyone runs meth is to "lower" their necessary octane for a given amount of boost).
translation=its not necessary to run 100 octane. you can run a lower octane fuel, if using meth injection.
i hope this helps clear up any confusion. i know aj can ____ alot of people off. but hes not that stupid.
05-30-2007, 06:23 PM
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Moving along....
I wish the Pipes Voting actually had a percentage indication of how the voting is going. So we can see who is winning.
LOL....Hope FL does not screw up the voting count...
I wish the Pipes Voting actually had a percentage indication of how the voting is going. So we can see who is winning.
LOL....Hope FL does not screw up the voting count...
05-30-2007, 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Brett
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AJ, I guess you'll never stop. Meth injection increases octane not lowering it. They may not of needed it but remember they had to prepare for the next rounds also. It's a game and they had to prepare for the future.
Meth injection increases octane not lowering it. They may not of needed it but remember they had to prepare for the next rounds also. It's a game and they had to prepare for the future.
Originally Posted by dyltone
Also, why would they need the methanol injection? The only reason anyone runs meth is to "lower" their necessary octane for a given amount of boost. Stage Zero at 6 psi would definitely run on pump gas so maybe they were running some stupid amount of boost with no intercooler, that's where the meth comes in.
if you run 300hp on 93 octane and you want 400hp, you'll need race gas or you run 93 octane plus meth injection to achieve your goal.
Anything incorrect about that statement?
(The only reason anyone runs meth is to "lower" their necessary octane for a given amount of boost).
translation=its not necessary to run 100 octane. you can run a lower octane fuel, if using meth injection.
i hope this helps clear up any confusion. i know aj can ____ alot of people off. but hes not that stupid.
You would have to spray meth the whole time if that was the case and people used it that way. Which I have never heard of anyone using it just for the sake of using lower grade octane. That would be a waste of money to use it for that purpose.
05-30-2007, 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
Moving along....
I wish the Pipes Voting actually had a percentage indication of how the voting is going. So we can see who is winning.
LOL....Hope FL does not screw up the voting count...
I wish the Pipes Voting actually had a percentage indication of how the voting is going. So we can see who is winning.
LOL....Hope FL does not screw up the voting count...
05-30-2007, 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Brett
Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
Moving along....
I wish the Pipes Voting actually had a percentage indication of how the voting is going. So we can see who is winning.
LOL....Hope FL does not screw up the voting count...
I wish the Pipes Voting actually had a percentage indication of how the voting is going. So we can see who is winning.
LOL....Hope FL does not screw up the voting count...
Oh dude....I think the first Post I made about the show after watching it was something along the lines of they should get rid of him.
I didn't like him from the first episode... 
05-30-2007, 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
Originally Posted by Brett
Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
Moving along....
I wish the Pipes Voting actually had a percentage indication of how the voting is going. So we can see who is winning.
LOL....Hope FL does not screw up the voting count...
I wish the Pipes Voting actually had a percentage indication of how the voting is going. So we can see who is winning.
LOL....Hope FL does not screw up the voting count...
Oh dude....I think the first Post I made about the show after watching it was something along the lines of they should get rid of him.
I didn't like him from the first episode...
05-30-2007, 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by jrodTc
Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
Originally Posted by Brett
Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
Moving along....
I wish the Pipes Voting actually had a percentage indication of how the voting is going. So we can see who is winning.
LOL....Hope FL does not screw up the voting count...
I wish the Pipes Voting actually had a percentage indication of how the voting is going. So we can see who is winning.
LOL....Hope FL does not screw up the voting count...
Oh dude....I think the first Post I made about the show after watching it was something along the lines of they should get rid of him.
I didn't like him from the first episode... Dude I would suck....umm..never mind..
And you said it all. He is an engineer...So that explains EVERYTHING about him. I can be more tollerant of him now that you said that, because it's his nature and he means no harm.
05-30-2007, 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
Originally Posted by jrodTc
Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
Originally Posted by Brett
Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
Moving along....
I wish the Pipes Voting actually had a percentage indication of how the voting is going. So we can see who is winning.
LOL....Hope FL does not screw up the voting count...
I wish the Pipes Voting actually had a percentage indication of how the voting is going. So we can see who is winning.
LOL....Hope FL does not screw up the voting count...
Oh dude....I think the first Post I made about the show after watching it was something along the lines of they should get rid of him.
I didn't like him from the first episode... Dude I would suck....umm..never mind..
And you said it all. He is an engineer...So that explains EVERYTHING about him. I can be more tollerant of him now that you said that, because it's his nature and he means no harm.
Ummmm, damn, just thinking bout that ___ of hers!!! JEEEBUS! K, i'm done.
05-30-2007, 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
Originally Posted by Brett
Originally Posted by Dyltone
Originally Posted by etsnet
AJ, I guess you'll never stop. Meth injection increases octane not lowering it. They may not of needed it but remember they had to prepare for the next rounds also. It's a game and they had to prepare for the future.
Meth injection increases octane not lowering it. They may not of needed it but remember they had to prepare for the next rounds also. It's a game and they had to prepare for the future.
Originally Posted by dyltone
Also, why would they need the methanol injection? The only reason anyone runs meth is to "lower" their necessary octane for a given amount of boost. Stage Zero at 6 psi would definitely run on pump gas so maybe they were running some stupid amount of boost with no intercooler, that's where the meth comes in.
if you run 300hp on 93 octane and you want 400hp, you'll need race gas or you run 93 octane plus meth injection to achieve your goal.
Anything incorrect about that statement?
(The only reason anyone runs meth is to "lower" their necessary octane for a given amount of boost).
translation=its not necessary to run 100 octane. you can run a lower octane fuel, if using meth injection.
i hope this helps clear up any confusion. i know aj can ____ alot of people off. but hes not that stupid.
You would have to spray meth the whole time if that was the case and people used it that way. Which I have never heard of anyone using it just for the sake of using lower grade octane. That would be a waste of money to use it for that purpose.
w/m injection is only sprayed at a pre-set boost level. (i.e. i set my boost controler at 15psi, and set my w/m at 8 psi.) it is usually sparyed at WOT when your above said boost level. it is not sprayed "the whole time". what it does is, through the process of evaparation, cool the charge air temp. it has no affect on the fuel. all it does is allow more boost to be safely run on the same octane fuel. the only thing that canges your fuels octane rating is fuel additeves that are sold in little jugs. with w/m injection your fuel octane stays constant. you are just able to run a lower octane fuel with w/m injection, because of the cooling factor.
05-30-2007, 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
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05-30-2007, 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Brett
ok travis. im not a good typer but please bear with me.
w/m injection is only sprayed at a pre-set boost level. (i.e. i set my boost controler at 15psi, and set my w/m at 8 psi.) it is usually sparyed at WOT when your above said boost level. it is not sprayed "the whole time". what it does is, through the process of evaparation, cool the charge air temp. it has no affect on the fuel. all it does is allow more boost to be safely run on the same octane fuel. the only thing that canges your fuels octane rating is fuel additeves that are sold in little jugs. with w/m injection your fuel octane stays constant. you are just able to run a lower octane fuel with w/m injection, because of the cooling factor.
w/m injection is only sprayed at a pre-set boost level. (i.e. i set my boost controler at 15psi, and set my w/m at 8 psi.) it is usually sparyed at WOT when your above said boost level. it is not sprayed "the whole time". what it does is, through the process of evaparation, cool the charge air temp. it has no affect on the fuel. all it does is allow more boost to be safely run on the same octane fuel. the only thing that canges your fuels octane rating is fuel additeves that are sold in little jugs. with w/m injection your fuel octane stays constant. you are just able to run a lower octane fuel with w/m injection, because of the cooling factor.
I am completely well aware of how Meth injection works. I was planning on having my setup spray from 10 up to 14 PSI. However, be it as it may....I have NEVER came across any car nut/racer that uses Meth injection for the purpose of running lower octane in his tank. I don't know anyone who bought a meth kit, and now puts 87 octane in the tank and no longer 91-93+. A meth kit is like $500 bucks. Again, I have YET to see it used as the way AJ tried to describe it.
When I said you would practically spray the whole time, I was speaking along the lines of you running 87 octane (Being unsafe on a non-factory turboed car), to make up for "cheapness" in not buying 91-93+. I would not and have not seen Meth used in that fashion. When they add meth....They mean to go fast on it, not save a few dollars at the pump.
Meth addition + 93 = Higher Ocatne = Safer to run Higher boost = Go Faster, which is why his post looked stupid with the way he tried to describe it.
But anyhow, water under the bridge, and on to the topic at hand.....
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05-30-2007, 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
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ok travis. im not a good typer but please bear with me.
w/m injection is only sprayed at a pre-set boost level. (i.e. i set my boost controler at 15psi, and set my w/m at 8 psi.) it is usually sparyed at WOT when your above said boost level. it is not sprayed "the whole time". what it does is, through the process of evaparation, cool the charge air temp. it has no affect on the fuel. all it does is allow more boost to be safely run on the same octane fuel. the only thing that canges your fuels octane rating is fuel additeves that are sold in little jugs. with w/m injection your fuel octane stays constant. you are just able to run a lower octane fuel with w/m injection, because of the cooling factor.
w/m injection is only sprayed at a pre-set boost level. (i.e. i set my boost controler at 15psi, and set my w/m at 8 psi.) it is usually sparyed at WOT when your above said boost level. it is not sprayed "the whole time". what it does is, through the process of evaparation, cool the charge air temp. it has no affect on the fuel. all it does is allow more boost to be safely run on the same octane fuel. the only thing that canges your fuels octane rating is fuel additeves that are sold in little jugs. with w/m injection your fuel octane stays constant. you are just able to run a lower octane fuel with w/m injection, because of the cooling factor.
I am completely well aware of how Meth injection works. I was planning on having my setup spray from 10 up to 14 PSI. However, be it as it may....I have NEVER came across any car nut/racer that uses Meth injection for the purpose of running lower octane in his tank. I don't know anyone who bought a meth kit, and now puts 87 octane in the tank and no longer 91-93+. A meth kit is like $500 bucks. Again, I have YET to see it used as the way AJ tried to describe it.
When I said you would practically spray the whole time, I was speaking along the lines of you running 87 octane (Being unsafe on a non-factory turboed car), to make up for "cheapness" in not buying 91-93+. I would not and have not seen Meth used in that fashion. When they add meth....They mean to go fast on it, not save a few dollars at the pump.
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Originally Posted by jrodTc
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Originally Posted by Brett
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ok travis. im not a good typer but please bear with me.
w/m injection is only sprayed at a pre-set boost level. (i.e. i set my boost controler at 15psi, and set my w/m at 8 psi.) it is usually sparyed at WOT when your above said boost level. it is not sprayed "the whole time". what it does is, through the process of evaparation, cool the charge air temp. it has no affect on the fuel. all it does is allow more boost to be safely run on the same octane fuel. the only thing that canges your fuels octane rating is fuel additeves that are sold in little jugs. with w/m injection your fuel octane stays constant. you are just able to run a lower octane fuel with w/m injection, because of the cooling factor.
w/m injection is only sprayed at a pre-set boost level. (i.e. i set my boost controler at 15psi, and set my w/m at 8 psi.) it is usually sparyed at WOT when your above said boost level. it is not sprayed "the whole time". what it does is, through the process of evaparation, cool the charge air temp. it has no affect on the fuel. all it does is allow more boost to be safely run on the same octane fuel. the only thing that canges your fuels octane rating is fuel additeves that are sold in little jugs. with w/m injection your fuel octane stays constant. you are just able to run a lower octane fuel with w/m injection, because of the cooling factor.
I am completely well aware of how Meth injection works. I was planning on having my setup spray from 10 up to 14 PSI. However, be it as it may....I have NEVER came across any car nut/racer that uses Meth injection for the purpose of running lower octane in his tank. I don't know anyone who bought a meth kit, and now puts 87 octane in the tank and no longer 91-93+. A meth kit is like $500 bucks. Again, I have YET to see it used as the way AJ tried to describe it.
When I said you would practically spray the whole time, I was speaking along the lines of you running 87 octane (Being unsafe on a non-factory turboed car), to make up for "cheapness" in not buying 91-93+. I would not and have not seen Meth used in that fashion. When they add meth....They mean to go fast on it, not save a few dollars at the pump.
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