Full Blow Motorsports just down the street was having a Dyno Day open house so I decided to stop in and have a run.

ZPI stage 0 (as it's currently sold), manual transmission, stock exhaust, stock ECU. Purple is adjusted to Dynojet numbers, green is the Dyno Dynamics actual run. You'll notice the boost line on the 2nd graph - it reaches peak boost pretty quickly! You can also see where some tuning will be necessary on the AFR line.

My first ever dyno - aren't they supposed to go to redline? Maybe somebody can answer this for me.




It was LOUUUUUD. Here's the video -> click me.

Keep my thread clean - haters will be dealt with.

 

203whp...I guess thats pretty close to the rated 250 hp they claim
Now can you guys belive that a supercharger will beat a stage 0??
glad to see your finally boosted though...congrats, you have the patience of Ghandi.

 

Actually they claim 230whp, I don't know if that's supposed to be on stock exhaust or whatever but this is about what I'd expected with stock exhaust.

 

well put. maby i will get a supercharger.

 

i think once you upgrade your exhuast you will see some better gains. also maybe get an emanage to really maximize the potential. i have seen stage 0's dyno way more then that on bone stock tc's. lets all keep in mind no motor is the same. congrats though on being boosted!

 

ohh, I thought that they claimed 250...ohh well, get an exhaust and you will pick up about another 10whp...213whp aint bad, but its still not 230...good job non the less.

 

TRD or Dezod here I come. I think I will take reliable 200+whp any day thanks for helping me make up my mind on which way to go.

 

where have you seen dynos higher than that on a bone stock tC...please share the dyno graphs, vids, etc(besides for ZPI dyno sheets). Exhaust will net him about 10whp...hes not running 14psi, only 6psi so an exhaust wont do wonders. Emange is defintely needed, I would never run a car without management, but even with the Emanage I can only see him topping out at the claimed 230whp...if he doesnt mess with timing theres only so much that can be picked up throug a/f tuning. Honestly, he should go in there and pull back some timing just for safety reasons, but thats gonna make him lose power

 

bro, I ran an out of the box stage 0 with my supercharger(had my 9 psi pulley on and headers) and walked the kid 3 out of 4 times...the only time I lost was from a dig cause I turned my launch into a burnout show. I got sooooo bashed by all the ZPI fans cause nobody could believe it that the supercharger was superior to the stage 0. Hell, Im running the stock pulley right now and I think I would still beat him badly cause it wasnt even close those 3 out of 4 times we ran. Ohh well, theres 3 people on here that know the true story, myself, Munch and Unseen(my friend that I ran with the stage 0).

 

So, 14.5:1 afr's under full boost until 4500 rpms where it drops to 12.8:a until redline. Thats pretty close to the "extremely rich 10:1 afrs" that was claimed.

Nice.

 

It seems like air/fuel isn't in the red either way so much. You can see on the fuel curve towards the end the ECU is still adapting.

I hadn't seen many MT stage 0 dyno graphs, so I felt it was my duty and responsibility to put mine up. Exhaust will help - looking into a manual boost controller as well but realistically I'm not too sure how much difference that will make since peak boost is made so quickly anyway.

 

I wouldnt go anywhere near a boost controller yet until you get some form of management...boost controller is only gonna raise your boost higher and will be harmful to the car

 

I also noticed that it looks to me like its closer to 7lbs of boost as opposed to 6.

Please, PLEASE get this car tuned soon before something bad happens to it. Putting all your eggs into a basket hoping your knock sensor is functioning properly is not the best idea, IMO.

Charles

 

That was one of my other questions - they didn't even go all the way to redline. Maybe I should've taken that 2nd run.

 

If I saw that afr's I wouldnt even get into boost until I had some tuning. Unless you like piston soup.

 

I wonder if ZPI took their A/F ratios immediately after startup of the vehicle they tested it out on...right where the ECU is dumping massive amounts of fuel to compensate for that extreme amount of air blowing through the MAF sensor...hey Streeter you throwing any CEL's?

 

Yup, there's been a CEL since I installed the kit. I don't have my Proscan yet so I don't know what codes I've got. That should be here in a couple days. ZPI's site does say to expect a CEL.

 

hey did you change your plugs out yet? If you didnt change them yet I would absoulutely wait until you get some management

 

 

Nope, haven't yet.

Hey guys, I appreciate your suggestions as I have spent the money already and the kit is installed. It's done. Now that it IS done, I want to make the best of it.

That being said, I don't care what you or anybody else personally thinks about ZPI and I'd appreciate it if you keep your crap-talk about them in one of the other ZPI-bashing threads. Saying that the kit doesn't seem to meet expectations I can accept but things like laughing about "testing" should go somewhere else. Cool?

Anyway. Onward!