Zpi stage 1 vs turbonetics kit.
#1
Zpi stage 1 vs turbonetics kit.
I did a search and couldn't find the exact information I was looking for. What is it about the zpi stage 1 that helps it make 50+ more whp than the turbonetics? Everone says the bb that comes with the turbonetics is a better turbo so why does the zpi make so much more power? Is it the tuning? emanage vs the unichip? I see that turbonetics is 8 psi and zpi is 9-10 but 2psi will not make up that 50+whp.
Zpi and turbonetics guys please chime in.
Zpi and turbonetics guys please chime in.
#4
The majority of it is in tuning. Yes that two PSI will make a difference. For instance at 8 PSI my car makes 380 RWHP at 9 PSI it makes 392 but theres a lot more in tuning. Turbonetics sets their kits up to be EXTREMELY safe out of box and tuned VERY rich at 8 PSI. This is done to ensure you have a good safe tune you can drive on or you can take the car to your local trusted tuner and tune in some more power. The turbo in the Turbonetics kit is capable of 480 HP worth of air but Turbonetics intentionally keeps it at a safe rich tune to make sure you don't lose your motor on the first drive.
#8
Originally Posted by bbsciontc
don't forget the turbonetics dyno still used the full stock exhaust system
#11
Originally Posted by MIAPLAYA
Originally Posted by bbsciontc
don't forget the turbonetics dyno still used the full stock exhaust system
#12
Originally Posted by bbsciontc
not sure but did the zpi dyno use 91 or 93 octane? A 93 octane tune can use more agressive ignition timing. It may not be a huge difference in and of itself but all these factors add up.
#14
Originally Posted by TimmyT
I'm a big fan of t3/4 hybrid turbos. But I am curious as to the Greddy kit and its numbers from the 18g mitsu turbo they are using in thier kit.
Precise mapping for fuel and timing
Closed loop boost control
Mutlimap storage and switch over via an external switch- what this means is you can program two maps into the Unichip including two boost curves and with the flick of a switch mounted anywhere you want you can change over to a higher boost map and tune all at once.
Provisions for an intercooler sprayer controller that can be activated based on user defined settings
Bluetooth access to the EMS to check real time correction factors, alter them, or upload an entirely new map via your PDA or laptop- whats nice about this is you can have you tuner make a map for cold weather, warm weather, daily boost, race gas boost, drag boost curve, autocross boost curve, road race tuning, etc and store them on your laptop or PDA. You Bluetooth into the EMS, upload your new map and away you go. No trying to dig and find the interface port.
There are many more features that only a tuner would use that are also in the Unichip but suffice to say it far exceeds the Emanage in included options.
#15
Unichip is a fine product, I'm really itching to purchase this kit. Sounds like butter to me, but its that entire carb thing thats holding me back.
Honestly, the carb certification alone on the greddy kit is worth holding off purchasing any turbo kit.
The turbonetics kits is a fine piece of machinery regardless of certification and more so if it does get certified, but Greddy if/when it releases thier kit. It will be 50 state legal.
If you life in california and are into tuning; you know that carb numbers are gold.
Honestly, the carb certification alone on the greddy kit is worth holding off purchasing any turbo kit.
The turbonetics kits is a fine piece of machinery regardless of certification and more so if it does get certified, but Greddy if/when it releases thier kit. It will be 50 state legal.
If you life in california and are into tuning; you know that carb numbers are gold.
#17
Originally Posted by MIAPLAYA
you can have you tuner make a map for cold weather, warm weather, daily boost, race gas boost, drag boost curve, autocross boost curve, road race tuning, etc and store them on your laptop or PDA. You Bluetooth into the EMS, upload your new map and away you go. No trying to dig and find the interface port.
There are many more features that only a tuner would use that are also in the Unichip but suffice to say it far exceeds the Emanage in included options.
There are many more features that only a tuner would use that are also in the Unichip but suffice to say it far exceeds the Emanage in included options.
How much dyno time is that to program that many maps?
#19
Originally Posted by TimmyT
Unichip is a fine product, I'm really itching to purchase this kit. Sounds like butter to me, but its that entire carb thing thats holding me back.
Honestly, the carb certification alone on the greddy kit is worth holding off purchasing any turbo kit.
The turbonetics kits is a fine piece of machinery regardless of certification and more so if it does get certified, but Greddy if/when it releases thier kit. It will be 50 state legal.
If you life in california and are into tuning; you know that carb numbers are gold.
Honestly, the carb certification alone on the greddy kit is worth holding off purchasing any turbo kit.
The turbonetics kits is a fine piece of machinery regardless of certification and more so if it does get certified, but Greddy if/when it releases thier kit. It will be 50 state legal.
If you life in california and are into tuning; you know that carb numbers are gold.
#20
Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
Originally Posted by MIAPLAYA
you can have you tuner make a map for cold weather, warm weather, daily boost, race gas boost, drag boost curve, autocross boost curve, road race tuning, etc and store them on your laptop or PDA. You Bluetooth into the EMS, upload your new map and away you go. No trying to dig and find the interface port.
There are many more features that only a tuner would use that are also in the Unichip but suffice to say it far exceeds the Emanage in included options.
There are many more features that only a tuner would use that are also in the Unichip but suffice to say it far exceeds the Emanage in included options.
How much dyno time is that to program that many maps?