15"s
03-28-2008, 03:41 PM
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15"s
Well im about ready to sell my 2 12's and get a 15" Fi Q or SSD
I dont care much about the trunk space since im single and I carry nothhing in my car.
Id just like to see some installs of 1 or possilby 2 15"s in a tc
anyone who can help ,thanks
I dont care much about the trunk space since im single and I carry nothhing in my car.
Id just like to see some installs of 1 or possilby 2 15"s in a tc
anyone who can help ,thanks
03-28-2008, 05:51 PM
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The one nebster posted was kinda what I wanted to do originally. Maybe i'll put the tank and compressor in the spare tire compartment. I dunno. That's down the road so it doesn't really matter. How did that set up sound by the way?
03-28-2008, 10:51 PM
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2 12s is louder than 1 15 period.
Cone area alone is enough to satisfy.
For utmost efficiency, ported is the way to go unless you need very quick response time which sealed would be better for your application.
You cannot successfully fit 2 15s in the hatch area AND be ported large enough to prevent port noise.
You can do 1 15 ported, 2 sealed, up to 3 12s ported, 6 12s sealed...
But all in all, 2 12s ported is better than 1 15.
I'm curious as to what 12s you have\had.
I know 1 15 is cheaper than 2 12s but this info is for anyone, not just the topic starter.
I'm still doing testing on the most efficient type of installs in the tC to get the most output out of your setup directly to the driver headrest.
Cone area alone is enough to satisfy.
For utmost efficiency, ported is the way to go unless you need very quick response time which sealed would be better for your application.
You cannot successfully fit 2 15s in the hatch area AND be ported large enough to prevent port noise.
You can do 1 15 ported, 2 sealed, up to 3 12s ported, 6 12s sealed...
But all in all, 2 12s ported is better than 1 15.
I'm curious as to what 12s you have\had.
I know 1 15 is cheaper than 2 12s but this info is for anyone, not just the topic starter.
I'm still doing testing on the most efficient type of installs in the tC to get the most output out of your setup directly to the driver headrest.
03-28-2008, 11:33 PM
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Please keep us updated on your findings. I want something that sounds clear and has a good amount of thump to it but in a fiberglass enclosure kinda like the one posted with the ED setup. Most likely 2 12'a if 2 15'a aren't going to get their full potential because of the minimal air space.
03-28-2008, 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by shizzzon
2 12s is louder than 1 15 period.
Cone area alone is enough to satisfy.
For utmost efficiency, ported is the way to go unless you need very quick response time which sealed would be better for your application.
You cannot successfully fit 2 15s in the hatch area AND be ported large enough to prevent port noise.
You can do 1 15 ported, 2 sealed, up to 3 12s ported, 6 12s sealed...
But all in all, 2 12s ported is better than 1 15.
I'm curious as to what 12s you have\had.
I know 1 15 is cheaper than 2 12s but this info is for anyone, not just the topic starter.
I'm still doing testing on the most efficient type of installs in the tC to get the most output out of your setup directly to the driver headrest.
Cone area alone is enough to satisfy.
For utmost efficiency, ported is the way to go unless you need very quick response time which sealed would be better for your application.
You cannot successfully fit 2 15s in the hatch area AND be ported large enough to prevent port noise.
You can do 1 15 ported, 2 sealed, up to 3 12s ported, 6 12s sealed...
But all in all, 2 12s ported is better than 1 15.
I'm curious as to what 12s you have\had.
I know 1 15 is cheaper than 2 12s but this info is for anyone, not just the topic starter.
I'm still doing testing on the most efficient type of installs in the tC to get the most output out of your setup directly to the driver headrest.
03-28-2008, 11:40 PM
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i don't do fiberglass.
Everything i test with is mdf based enclosures.
Fiberglass can allow one to gain internal volume but the time consumed for the average person is a lot more than typical mdf enclosures.
I also don't trust fiberglass enclosures when dealing with several thousand watts of power either.
Everything i test with is mdf based enclosures.
Fiberglass can allow one to gain internal volume but the time consumed for the average person is a lot more than typical mdf enclosures.
I also don't trust fiberglass enclosures when dealing with several thousand watts of power either.
03-29-2008, 12:00 AM
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well, it's great if you can do fiberglass. However, it's not really necessary to take advice from me if you do those types of enclosures because you can gain more volume and of course you would know how much.
I have no experience with fiberglass but i do know it a lot more work than MDF.
It's hard for me to argue about fiberglass being stronger than mdf potentially but this new setup i am about to build...
Using double baffles, 3\4" all thread joined at central location(s) using 4ways, L brackets and threadlocker or hurricane nuts(havent decided yet) just to hold the subs down, it's gonna be strong obviously.
I always paint my boxes in fluorescent paint so they light up via UV light.
I'm not downing fiberglass by any means but it's fair to say that the average user will buy or have made an enclosure for them. The users above them build their own using MDF\Birch.
Then we have guys like you who use fiberglass.
I've never taken that step up there, it just never interested me.
By the way, what setup are you plannin on doin?
I still gotta build this test bxo and finish testing when weather gets warmer hopefully anyday but i'm tryin to go with either 3 or 4 10s ported off of a 5,000w amp.
Yea... in a tC.
BUT... until i get this test box built and testing resumes, i won't stand by that setup until i know what's the best option for the money.
I have no experience with fiberglass but i do know it a lot more work than MDF.
It's hard for me to argue about fiberglass being stronger than mdf potentially but this new setup i am about to build...
Using double baffles, 3\4" all thread joined at central location(s) using 4ways, L brackets and threadlocker or hurricane nuts(havent decided yet) just to hold the subs down, it's gonna be strong obviously.
I always paint my boxes in fluorescent paint so they light up via UV light.
I'm not downing fiberglass by any means but it's fair to say that the average user will buy or have made an enclosure for them. The users above them build their own using MDF\Birch.
Then we have guys like you who use fiberglass.
I've never taken that step up there, it just never interested me.
By the way, what setup are you plannin on doin?
I still gotta build this test bxo and finish testing when weather gets warmer hopefully anyday but i'm tryin to go with either 3 or 4 10s ported off of a 5,000w amp.
Yea... in a tC.
BUT... until i get this test box built and testing resumes, i won't stand by that setup until i know what's the best option for the money.
03-29-2008, 12:04 AM
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i build ____ for lots of people, i'm very familiar with fiberglass and yes its more difficult to work with but its much more rewarding. i don't even know why you're arguing over it, two completely different sounds.
theres a build thread around here somewhere, amps have changed but it should be pretty intense.
theres a build thread around here somewhere, amps have changed but it should be pretty intense.
03-29-2008, 04:32 AM
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Originally Posted by shizzzon
2 12s is louder than 1 15 period.
Cone area alone is enough to satisfy.
For utmost efficiency, ported is the way to go unless you need very quick response time which sealed would be better for your application.
You cannot successfully fit 2 15s in the hatch area AND be ported large enough to prevent port noise.
You can do 1 15 ported, 2 sealed, up to 3 12s ported, 6 12s sealed...
But all in all, 2 12s ported is better than 1 15.
I'm curious as to what 12s you have\had.
I know 1 15 is cheaper than 2 12s but this info is for anyone, not just the topic starter.
I'm still doing testing on the most efficient type of installs in the tC to get the most output out of your setup directly to the driver headrest.
Cone area alone is enough to satisfy.
For utmost efficiency, ported is the way to go unless you need very quick response time which sealed would be better for your application.
You cannot successfully fit 2 15s in the hatch area AND be ported large enough to prevent port noise.
You can do 1 15 ported, 2 sealed, up to 3 12s ported, 6 12s sealed...
But all in all, 2 12s ported is better than 1 15.
I'm curious as to what 12s you have\had.
I know 1 15 is cheaper than 2 12s but this info is for anyone, not just the topic starter.
I'm still doing testing on the most efficient type of installs in the tC to get the most output out of your setup directly to the driver headrest.
eh i dont see where this comes in at all
i have my 12's in a .8 sealed per chamber box right now and it sounds great
2 12's will NOT always be louder than 1 15
where did you get this info from?
03-29-2008, 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by blazeplacid
Originally Posted by shizzzon
2 12s is louder than 1 15 period.
Cone area alone is enough to satisfy.
For utmost efficiency, ported is the way to go unless you need very quick response time which sealed would be better for your application.
You cannot successfully fit 2 15s in the hatch area AND be ported large enough to prevent port noise.
You can do 1 15 ported, 2 sealed, up to 3 12s ported, 6 12s sealed...
But all in all, 2 12s ported is better than 1 15.
I'm curious as to what 12s you have\had.
I know 1 15 is cheaper than 2 12s but this info is for anyone, not just the topic starter.
I'm still doing testing on the most efficient type of installs in the tC to get the most output out of your setup directly to the driver headrest.
Cone area alone is enough to satisfy.
For utmost efficiency, ported is the way to go unless you need very quick response time which sealed would be better for your application.
You cannot successfully fit 2 15s in the hatch area AND be ported large enough to prevent port noise.
You can do 1 15 ported, 2 sealed, up to 3 12s ported, 6 12s sealed...
But all in all, 2 12s ported is better than 1 15.
I'm curious as to what 12s you have\had.
I know 1 15 is cheaper than 2 12s but this info is for anyone, not just the topic starter.
I'm still doing testing on the most efficient type of installs in the tC to get the most output out of your setup directly to the driver headrest.
eh i dont see where this comes in at all
i have my 12's in a .8 sealed per chamber box right now and it sounds great
2 12's will NOT always be louder than 1 15
where did you get this info from?
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03-29-2008, 01:55 PM
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people will argue 2 12s are not louder than 1 15 if you go the route of comparing apples to oranges when you should be comparing like installs.
It's simple-
2 12s have more cone area
2 12s have twice the heat dissipation.
2 12s can be positioned in a lot more positions than 1 speaker can directing sound better.
2 12s have more displacement.
And sometimes, 2 12s can actually be optimized to run in an enclosure smaller than 1 15, not all the time though.
So... typically, the only way 1 15 would be louder is install error or totally different product.
It's simple-
2 12s have more cone area
2 12s have twice the heat dissipation.
2 12s can be positioned in a lot more positions than 1 speaker can directing sound better.
2 12s have more displacement.
And sometimes, 2 12s can actually be optimized to run in an enclosure smaller than 1 15, not all the time though.
So... typically, the only way 1 15 would be louder is install error or totally different product.