No worries man, that whole thing just has me a little ticked....hate to see my customers end up w/ installs like that

 

I used to work at Classic Stereo and Video in Kalamazoo, MI. We charged more than everyone, but like I used to tell my customers:

You get what you pay for.

It sucks that your amps are crooked, your door sill is fubar'd, and the wiring is whack, but the morons at Circuit ____ty and Death Star (BB) are working to the level that they pay them to. Nothing more. You're just a number.

Small, reputable shops may cost more, but there's a reason for that.

 

another reason why you should let the audio junkies in town work on it, since they specialize in it.

 

How many times does this happen to people .!!!!!
Come on if i had a dime for everytime someone went to Best Buy or Circuit City for a crappy install i would be the rich!!!!

 

your right that is a crappy job they did but whats even worse is you could of did it yourself for it would have probably looked a helluva lot better for less than 1grand. those people cant even install car alarms right much less a stereo.

the wiring looks a hot mess it should have been hidden alot better .


it doesnt looked like they mapped out the install at all. all someone would have to do is break your rear winshield and be out in less than 5 minutes top and your whole system system sitting in the rear like that.

my advise is to invest in proximity sensors and a fm pager so when the break in does happen at least you call the proper people to salvage and save your ride. Ive personallly lost over 2 grand so i hope your not thinking im talking out of my behind on this subject.


did you even question them for the reason behind breaking down for breaking down the 4 guage to eight because if im not mistaken they did it based on the overall volatge that a battery can output otherwise wouldnt it kill your charging system even with a capacitor in place.

give us some feed back on what they said to you

 

I hope this doesn't come off the wrong way, but IMO that's what was bound to happen by having it installed by a chain store like Circuit City. They're in the business of getting people in and out as quickly as possible, so they aren't going to take the time and care that a dedicated private shop would take.

It seriously looks like some amateur installed it, I'd be raising hell over it if I had paid that much.

 

most the people working in those install shops at the chain stores are teenagers with no real experience at all.

 

okie.... here is whats up.

1. i went to cicuit city because it was a large chain and i figured that if anything went wrong, it would be easier to get problems fixed.

2. im knowledgeable about car audio products, but know absolutely nothing about installs.

3. i went to circuit city because i wanted it done "professionally" i told them that money wasnt a issue and i wanted the install done correctly. I also told them that i wanted atleast 4 guage wire going to the nine.1.

4. ive gone to stereo shops that have done worse jobs then this before, i figured that meybe something as large as circuit city would atleast be decent.

 

by the way, if i cannot get circuit city to fix their problems... i will gladly go to anyones shop if they have any recomendations.... I live in Claremont, Ca. Id perfer to not drive further then 50 miles , but Im also willing to do whats neccessary to fix this.

 

my friend if you type and browse the internet then you can easily do your own install. there are countless articles of how to do a proper install. its really hard to screw it up. i used to do it for a while to pay down some of my college expenses i knew completely nothing . just stop in at any local shop in your area ask a few question they maybe willing to help you doit for free. thats how i learned personally.

by the way whats the wattage rating of your amps nine1 & 2.
you stated 1200rms i hope thats peak because you may be able to blow your window with that much bass or at least the sunroof. a meember here has already done so but i dont recall the system she had in it

 

Nine.2 130x2 @ 14V @ 4 ohms
Nine.1 1200x1@ 12V @ 1 ohm.

And realistically, blowing out windows does not happen....very rarely to SPL competitors, yes, to an average person, it's a story about their friend/cousin/brothers, friend/cousin/brothers dog.

 

thats some mickey mouse B.S.

I would not have taken delivery of the car if thats the way it came back... should have told them to take it all out and get a refund.... and not to sound like a broken record research a reputable audio shop!

 

well im not an average person ive won several comps so i know a little something there. was a case posted here a week or so ago who she stated that her sunroof shattered as a result but to me it was specualtion . she stated she was sitting in her car bumping her favorite tunes and it started raining glass. another incident ive personally seen was a hatch that was blown open and a front windshield that seperated from soo much bassss while i was in college.
im not gonna dwell on that story besides it kinda off topic.

any way the 1200 x 1 is that peak? i believe its peak watts your talking so realistically its half in even if it is in one channel mode. a real amp (not to put your system down or nothing) has a dollar/watt ratio.

so amp that produces 500 watts peak realistcally produces a good wattage rating of 250-290 watts without over working itself. i know what your thinking why does it have a 1000 watt rating well the truth is its a marketing gimmick thats been used for decades now. which would you you rather see a big or small number for your dollars?? a thousand watt amp should cost you close to 1,000 bucks unless they(manfac) switch the game on me in the past 4 years and made stuff a helluva lot cheaper. i know in depth about this topic because it was a class project.

crutchfield.com has videos on how to properly install amps. heres also a chart for those wondering why circuit city broke it down to 8 guage wiring.what they should have given you was a least a 4 gauge distribution block which based on the specs and the chart you should have gotten for the amount of amps your drawing. also see how long your ground cables are. the shorter the ground the harder the bass hit. also are you using gold connects or patch/rca cables?


these tips im giving you have won me and several other guys alot of trophies.my hearing is what its used to be so i quit.


. feel free to drop me a pm if any more questions about car stereos setups.



pic of what your install should have looked like


thanx crutchfield for the free info stuff


one last thing 64% Efficiency vs power is another ratio i would pay attention to.
is it CEA-2006 compliant?? it should be !!!

 

no that is the rms rating.. 1200 rms @ 1ohm on 12v ... 1500ish @14.4v

as far as doing the install myself. 1) i work to much to do it 2) i dont want to do it 3) i dont feel comfortable doing it 4) i dont have all the proper equipment to do it.

www.edesignaudio.com <--- read up. why would I be ____ed that a 250 watt amp was wired with 4 guage and broken down to 8

btw the nine.1 draws a max of 130 ampres

 

i took delivery assuming that it was a setting issue... however, its not.

 

Can't do alarms let alone stereos? In my experience and my bro's (installer) experience, alarms tend to be way more involved that stereos. Stereos are simple in cars like the tc.

Its funny, my bro has been an installer for years and years at CC...however, he does some good work. He's been to AV schooles, custom install schools, etc... not sure why he hasn't started somehwere else. He did some cool work on his teg and my IS when I had it.

anyway

 

I went there but didn't get their insatll. i am an avid wirer, and completely installed my entire ride grounding to frame, using the correct gauge++ for everything, and taking my time to run them where they won't get damaged, heat, or where they could pick up outside sound. (enough of my jobs)

I Hate Circuit City.

I bought a cheap amp and sub set there for my old car. a crappy 92 dodge colt, and i opted to go for the Extended Warranty, that says if i should ever blow anything they would replace it for the same item, or slightly better (if they didn't have it in stock). This warranty lasts two years. Well a year later my amp goes. so i bring the Amp in mention down to the Circuit City (Palm Dessert, CA) and ask for them to bring up my account, they took pages of information from me when i bought the damn thing, i figured they put it into their computers, and stored me in some file. NO ONE EVER TOLD ME TO HOLD ONTO SOME FORM OF RECIEPT, OR WARRANTY CARD (never got one anyway). They couldn't find me anywhere! so i spent an extra 50 bux for this warranty and they don't do SHIZZLE! (edited for Scionlife.com) OHHH I was ____ed. never go to Circuit City again. I spoke to their manager, he didn't do anything, i wrote to headquarters, they were sending me "coupons" whooopie! haven't got them yet

i told them i will never come back to circuit city, and tell everyone i know not to do business there. I haven't been back in close to two years.

Moral of the Story, if you bought that extended warranty thing, you just lost 50 bux

 

Get your butt down to the CC and talk with the people who installed your stuff. Let them know thats not what you were thinking about how the install was going to be. If you do not want to do this than I think you should just live with it and fix it when you have time. Remember advise is free, screw-ups cost you money.


John

 

 

what a $h!ty deal.... hope you can get this straightend out in a timely manner!