tkevin07

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no i did it before just never have the chip key sensor thing, so im just wonering where will that go in, where did u get the wiring diagram for the 08's?

waterhurley

there isnt one. i used the diagram for 07 and just meter tested everything. if u buy the xk05 it comes with the diagrams for the ecu.

tkevin07

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well i guess during the summer ill a make a DIY for this install lol ill take pictures of it catching on fire if it does haha

scioncraze05

not to thread jack waterhurley but tkevin07, have you ever done an install like this before???? If you have not done one like it or anything close to it I recommend not even trying this install. It is not easy if it will be your first time have a pro do it.

Thats just my .02.

tkevin07

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yea i've done it, the only difference with cars is one first one was a honda and didnt have that extra anti-theft stuff, reason i ask is i dont want to do it and i cant start the car and not figure what happened because i tap the wrong keysense wire

scioncraze05

if you are going to be using the XK05 unit there is no keysense wire that you have to tap into you have to use the wires that are on the ECU that controls the bypass. There are 2 data wires that have to cut and wired into the XK05 unit. But you will see that when you get the unit.

tkevin07

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ok thanks a lot, so i shouldnt get the other one that uses up ur key huh? its like a box with only 3 wires coming out from Directed electronics

scioncraze05

no get the XK05, uses no keys only to program the unit then you get to keep all your keys.

tkevin07

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ok yes i can start on the freaking project this summer

waterhurley

yeah i qwent with the XK05 so i wouldnt loose a key. the 556U looses a key. the XK05 copys the programing from one of your keys. and like scioncraze05 said, theres no keysense wires to tep. just at the ecu like i explained. when i clean my car tomorow, if i feel like pulling apart my glovebox, ill show you the wires.

the instrunctions mine came with were very straight forward as long as u understand RS and alrams. BTW, also unlike the honda, the scion has 2 starter wires in which you will need a relay.

tkevin07

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whats the second one used for? i think i used both starter wires for the prelude i dont remember the scions wiring has to be easier i have the karr one rite now so i can figure out the lights and door locks, and the ignition is easy to get to

waterhurley

the car requires both starter wires being hot to start. took me 15 hours to do my scion. but that was full alarm and RS. i didnt even get too crazy with it.

tweetertc

**sigh** take it to a pro.. that way... you dont run the risk of ruining that brand new car...

tkevin07

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but i can learn about new cars this way, lol im not stupid to cut the air bag wires or anything, im just getting everything down before i start, and if things come up ill check on the things i asked about

jkois

Is the XK05 required for the viper 5002, alarm system without remote start? I plan on not using my original key that has the keyless entry functions and use the valet key instead to start the car. too bulky with the key and alarm pager together in my pocket.

tweetertc

if you are not installing a remote start then no... no module is needed for just and alarm/keyless...

its only needed for RS...

waterhurley

funny this thread pops up, im putting in my proximity sensor tomorrow (508d). havent read any install manuals yet but do i need to diode isolate the shock sensor and prox, or will it still work without diode and just suffer zone output on my remote?

foose801

^ no diode isolation necessary. you should have red, black, blue, and green wires from the brain to the shock sensor.... you can tie in those to your prox sensor too and roll with that.

the 508 is a simple install, have fun ;)