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Old 08-11-2004 | 01:31 PM
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My roof just started to creak the other day (just a bit not too much) so I stopped by the dealer to address it. They told me that it is a somewhat normal thing that Scion knows about and is working on it (It makes sense to me that this would happen from chassis flex w/o the structural integrity of a "solid" roof.)

They also told me that Scion may be considering a conventional roof next year as opposed to our all glass roof. Hmmm, maybe the 05's will become a somewhat limited edition model?

This is only from the dealer and not someone directly from Scion...so take it with a grain of salt.

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Old 08-11-2004 | 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by 3 IGs
They also told me that Scion may be considering a conventional roof next year as opposed to our all glass roof. Hmmm, maybe the 05's will become a somewhat limited edition model?

This is only from the dealer and not someone directly from Scion...so take it with a grain of salt.

Cheers,
Josh
I don't think making a conventional roof will be a good for the tC. One of the main reason i bought the car was due to its all glass roof top. It gives it a sleek look...not to mention a nice sky glass for the rear area. It's a trademark for the car... and i doubt Scion will throw that away because of some minor creak noise (which i have yet to hear on mine...and i drive in the sun and night (cold and hot).
Old 08-11-2004 | 05:28 PM
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yeah our tC does the same thing, especially since we've lowered it 2"

im not that worried its expected from a car that has a full glass top, juss like convetibles and targas...

...my cousin had a honda del sol, and everytime i drove it. it squeaked like crazy along the b pillars...

bottom line is...the tC will keep maikng that noise, it comes in the territory of having a full glass top

...maybe if somone made a c or b pillar brace, similar to the bbist c-pillar bar, then maybe it would help with the noise, and also increase structural rigidity :?:
Old 08-11-2004 | 09:38 PM
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"Ok here's what the tech did. When he called Scion HQ they instructed him to do the following:

1> Remove the two bolts in the support beams, shalack them up with Lock Tite, and re-torque the two bolts back into the support structure.

2> Re-secure insulation lining (moved around from the bolts backing out)

3> Slap it all back together and pray that the Lock Tite keeps it secure enough so that it doesn't back out again."
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Where are these bolts?? I'd rather do this myself then to take it to a dealer!!
Old 08-11-2004 | 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by vanberge
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"Ok here's what the tech did. When he called Scion HQ they instructed him to do the following:

1> Remove the two bolts in the support beams, shalack them up with Lock Tite, and re-torque the two bolts back into the support structure.

2> Re-secure insulation lining (moved around from the bolts backing out)

3> Slap it all back together and pray that the Lock Tite keeps it secure enough so that it doesn't back out again."
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Where are these bolts?? I'd rather do this myself then to take it to a dealer!!
Grab yourself a repair manual and look it up .... i used to hate it when my teachers told me to look something up...
Old 08-11-2004 | 09:54 PM
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yeah im sure there are lots of repair manuals for the tC.


Does anybody know where they are? honestly?
Old 08-11-2004 | 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by vanberge
yeah im sure there are lots of repair manuals for the tC.
Actually, there are. Do a search in these forums. The entire manual is posted online in .pdf (Adobe Acrobat) format. :D . Good luck man!
Old 08-12-2004 | 02:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Giravani
Originally Posted by vanberge
yeah im sure there are lots of repair manuals for the tC.
Actually, there are. Do a search in these forums. The entire manual is posted online in .pdf (Adobe Acrobat) format. :D . Good luck man!
is it still creakin or problem solved ?

i went to the dealer to pick up my plates n i saw a fellow tc owner and i warned her about the roof .. she sed she had it for a week n nothing .. i think i just jinxed her hahaha
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not solved.

i spent 35 minutes looking around for the manual..

are these bolts like under the headliner? If its that involved i might just have the dealer do it.. but from reading this thread it sounded like it could be a quick / do it yourself type fix
Old 08-12-2004 | 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by vanberge
not solved.

i spent 35 minutes looking around for the manual..

are these bolts like under the headliner? If its that involved i might just have the dealer do it.. but from reading this thread it sounded like it could be a quick / do it yourself type fix
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Old 08-12-2004 | 05:12 PM
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I had that creaking every time i pulled out of my driveway with that 1-2 inch drop...
A little sound from above would disturb me..
Its been about a month and ahalf since i had the car..
And it had broken in nicely at 1,500 miles...
The sound went away for me...
I havent heard any crashes/ creaks/ snaps/ crackles/ pops from anywhere besides the trunk where i have deodarant/ febreeze/ and some other what not...( gettin a crate for all that)
i think it just needs time to settle down... Maybe the sun hit the roof long enough to expand something and make a snug fit... I dono
But you never know there may be some call backs.
You have to keep in mind it is a brand new Model/make...
They are still finding the little tweaks to fix....
just saying my creak went away
Old 08-12-2004 | 06:42 PM
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just picked up my tC yesterday and i was very happy( didnt want to start a new thread ) today , Ive experienced the creak in the moonroof and im definitely not going to wait for it to go away. Im going to make the dealer fix it because they fixed my gf's creaking moonroof... its pretty annoying when you hit bumps but i know that the dealer can take care of it.

oh yeah, if they do decide that theres a problem wiith this car and decide to do a recall... do you get the same car back or do you get a new? do you get a loaner? has anyone experieced this recall....
Old 08-12-2004 | 07:49 PM
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They are not going to do a recall over a sunroof pop, only if it is a saftey issue. All cars have some quirk, the sunroof pop is not that bad.
Old 08-12-2004 | 07:54 PM
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I'm still shopping for my next car but I keep coming back to the tC coupe--it's just the right size, has enough power, and I really like the styling. Stilll, I consider the panoramic roof a negative point. But look at this two-year-old thread from the BenzWorld forum regarding the panoramic-roofed C class coupe:
Creaks Panorama roof on C sportcoupe
Who is experiencing same complaints about the panoramic sunroof on C-sportcoupe? It creaks when driving on uneven pavement and going over speedbumps diagonally. Please give me some input. Is this a construction fault?

Re: Creaks Panorama roof on C sportcoupe
I don't have one of these cars, but both of the conditions that stimulate the creaking are such that it must be bodyshell flexing that's the culprit. Undoubtedly, the lack of a proper roof would somewhat compromise the stiffness of the bodyshell, compared to the regular car and certainly compared to the sedan. I am fairly sure about that. Now whether the creaking can be minimised by some sort of adjustement, I don't know. In any case, the root cause is bodyshell flex.
Does this sound familiar? You bet it does. This is almost verbatum from posts on the ScionLife forum. I've never seen a C sport coupe with a panoramic roof. Does anyone have any experience with that car and has Mercedes solved their problem? The BenzWorld forum is at www.mbnz.org/forums/
Old 08-12-2004 | 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Giddy Nihilist
I'm still shopping for my next car but I keep coming back to the tC coupe--it's just the right size, has enough power, and I really like the styling. Stilll, I consider the panoramic roof a negative point. But look at this two-year-old thread from the BenzWorld forum regarding the panoramic-roofed C class coupe:
Creaks Panorama roof on C sportcoupe
Who is experiencing same complaints about the panoramic sunroof on C-sportcoupe? It creaks when driving on uneven pavement and going over speedbumps diagonally. Please give me some input. Is this a construction fault?

Re: Creaks Panorama roof on C sportcoupe
I don't have one of these cars, but both of the conditions that stimulate the creaking are such that it must be bodyshell flexing that's the culprit. Undoubtedly, the lack of a proper roof would somewhat compromise the stiffness of the bodyshell, compared to the regular car and certainly compared to the sedan. I am fairly sure about that. Now whether the creaking can be minimised by some sort of adjustement, I don't know. In any case, the root cause is bodyshell flex.
Does this sound familiar? You bet it does. This is almost verbatum from posts on the ScionLife forum. I've never seen a C sport coupe with a panoramic roof. Does anyone have any experience with that car and has Mercedes solved their problem? The BenzWorld forum is at www.mbnz.org/forums/
Interesting, I have seen one in my neighborhood, I always want to drive up and say "nice roof".
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no matter how much loc tite you put its still gonna "creak"

trust me

it will always "creak"
Old 08-12-2004 | 10:39 PM
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I have 3500 miles on my tc. First 1000 miles never heard the crack. From 1000 to 2500 miles I heard it all the time. Now for the last 1000 miles and about 3 weeks I have not heard the crack even once! I wonder if somehow it "fixes" itself as everything breaks in.
Old 08-12-2004 | 10:47 PM
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Everyone thinking they might be able to tighen these bolts yourself think twice. To get the headliner out on these you need to remove every piece of the interior from the door panels back and the pillar covers in the front also. Had to do this today on a tC, apparently this tC was missing the bolts that hold the sunroof on the passenger side from the factory!

Old 08-12-2004 | 11:17 PM
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back in black... just wondering .. whats your vin number?/

i just bought mine yesterday and it already has that creaking noise... i hope im not missing any bolts
Old 08-13-2004 | 12:10 AM
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My sunroof has creaked from day one, often in fact. I've just past the 900 mile mark and now I'm noticing it doesn't happen nearly as much. I have an appt. Saturday at the dealer, I hope I can get it to happen for the tech. I also wonder if I should cancel and see if it gets better. I'd hate to have them pull it apart and somehow make the problem worse.


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