Couple of months ago I paid $550 for a one-day driving school (and I am 27). We did all the things you mentioned plus more, had about 30 minute class on theory of braking and taking turns, then practiced all day. The course is aimed mainly at accident avoidance, but we also did several autox runs as a final exam Basically if what I learned saves me from one accident the course pays for itself. We had 10 people in class, the school provided new 1.8T FWD Audi A4 that we were not responsible for in case something happens and from what I heard the students were from all over the country and they were waiting to get into one of these classes for 6 months.

Here's the school/list of "exercises": http://www.audidrivingexperience.com/exercises.asp

 

While I agree with most of what you said, when is it possible on public roads to use the correct turn-in point to carry the right line through the apex and take the correct track-out? That is not happening when you are supposed to stay in one lane.

 

Lanes are pretty wide...

 

.. .regardless of the size of the lane, there is always an apex to the turn . . ..

. .. i also suggest know how your vehicle is going to handle in specific situations .. . .the driving schools are great .. . .but all cars will handle differently. . . .if you have the chance, test some of your skills on your car so you can become familiar with it

 

.. .regardless of the size of the lane, parked cars, other obsticles . .. , there is always an apex to a turn . . ..

. .. i also suggest know how your vehicle is going to handle in specific situations .. . .the driving schools are great .. . .but all cars will handle differently. . . .if you have the chance .... test some of your skills on your car so you can become familiar with it (like an empty parking lot), but remember your's and other's safety comes first .. . . .be sure you are in a place where no one will get hurt or where you will get a ticket .. .

peace,
z

 

I have to agree, this doesn't pass the smell test. 0-to-80 in two blocks? No, wait, his friend said he was going under 60 - still within two blocks, mind you - yet managed to do a 360, THEN cross the entire road and hit the curb (a curb on a road designed for 60 MPH??), THEN flip TWICE.

Most likely what happened (if ANYTHING happened) was the guy was going WAY too fast and had a blowout, freaked, and cranked the wheel. Gave half the story to random friends. Then random friend comes here and posts BEWARE!!! YES YOU!!! YOUR CAR IS DEFECTIVE!!!

Quite frankly, if the guy was going fast enough to do all that to his car, and only had a sore shoulder afterwards, I want a tC even more - that's one safe cockpit.

 

. .i would also like to know the age and driving experience of these drivers . . .. :?


oh, me? .. . .. .29years w/ 11yrs driving experience. . . .

 

Sorry to go OT, but zilasram, the ....'s are killer. Try to punctuate if you can please, it makes reading less chaotic. No offense intended.

 

As mentioned, I don't even have a scion, that's why i don't post much on here. I was, however, in the process of getting a tC from Scion for a magazine promotional car (i work with 3 different magazines as a freelancer), but that deal didn't end up pulling through because the release date of the Scion was moved up from September to June. I still like the tC and would buy it if I was looking to buy a new car, but my next car will be a promo car for the magazine.

If you really want someone to vouch for me, I've known the webmaster (Darren) for YEARS now, since he was running NWStreetracing.com, I even worked for him for awhile, doing freelance photography. BCS is a pretty big member on here and owns an xA, he knows who I am. Coy from Flux also has a scion, he runs motor-fx.com , I'd assume he's on here. Edwin from Auto Import Craze is another buddy of mine who owns an xB, and Chris from Overboost owned an xB before it was smooshed on the freeway going to HIN San Mateo. I'm not sure who all is on here and who isn't, but I'm sure that more than a few of these guys will be on here and would vouch that i'm not looking to talk smack on anyone.

As a small point of clarification, he was coming home and was ONLY 2 blocks from his house, he wasn't leaving his house and going out for the day. He had been on the road for awhile...

Latest word from my buddy after showing him a link to this thread...

 

I emailed Scion and this is what they responded with:

 

What do you think then?? .... Could the original poster of this thread be a sales manager from Saturn or Mazda?

 

If i was a sales manager at a dealership, i'd be making alot more money than I do now!! hahaha... thanks for flattering me though.

 

The cost of a recall might be more expensive than the cost of possible law suits due to the defect (Tyler Durden's job in Fight Club, insurance guy).

 

the way the wheel is broken in that picture it looks like it snapped right at the base of the spoke, suggesting a weak point if hit hard enough by the curb or something.

 

No way! Remember the defective firestone tire fiasco a few years back? The last thing toyota needs is numerous laibility lawsuits from greiving family members who lost a loved one to a defective rim that cracked and rolled the car. I can see toyota hiding a potential engine sludge problem....oh that's right, they DID do that until the problem got too big, but a potentially fatal safety issue??? No way, they'll be on this like white on rice....

 

Man, only on the internet can two random problems become a "defect."

A loud bang sound mostly likely means a blown tire, most likely from something in the road.

This is not rocket science! Internet speculation does nothing...

 

If I came across as reinforcing the statement that his accident was due to a defect, I apologize, I was nearly making fun at the topic and find it amazing that like you said, NewScion Dot Org, only on the Internet can 2 problems become a defect (hence, I agree with you). beh!

 

Sure this guy was on the right forum i think he might of been driving a FORD EXPLORER

 

is this the same slapshotnerd that posts on vortex??...

here's another thread on it.
http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=1573634

edit:: read the whole post, and damn you guys are harsh, don't take it to the heart, he was just trying to give you guys a heads up. he wasnt trying to bash your cars.


i hope your friends alright man.

 

you've seen alot of things about what? what is "it"? that's the first instance i heard of this, and the same goes for the ABS locking up problem. not knocking on those two guys who got into those accidents, but those are TWO separate accidents, totally NOT realted to each other, out of all the tCs out there. I dare ANYONE to find ANY car manufacturer who hasn't had ONE car do this with ANY of their models. chill out.

if EVERY car had an ABS problem, then yea maybe a recall would make a BIT more sense then, hm?