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Old 04-24-2004 | 10:45 PM
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I drive an old corolla, too. Mine is an '85. My whole reason for getting the tC is to have a very reliable daily driver so I can toy with the corolla.

I won't touch the tC performance-wise. I don't think it's worth it. It's way overweight and that's just not my thing. I would rather invest in thousands on suspensions goodies and an S2000 motor in my corolla before trying to make a tC fast. But that's just me.

The tC is a nice car for pimpin' around in, tho. So I would love to get it lowered on a nice set of rims when I'm done paying for it.

If you want a fast car for the money with a better warranty, go to www.dodge.com and check out the SRT-4. A cheap 4 door with PLENTY of go and factory covered hop-ups on top of that.
Old 04-24-2004 | 11:14 PM
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i'd stick with japanese cars. i think they are more reliable. and i think the srt-4 is ugly.
Old 04-24-2004 | 11:25 PM
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Well to fairly consider "bang for the buck" you can't consider what you're currently driving...

I'm driving a 90 Integra LS, 130 hp.... BuKeT!

The way you determine this is to put it flat out on the market... You have to notice that the tC is pretty near the bottom of the list of cars put out in 2005... (for the bang department)

Compared to cars like the RSX Type S, the Si, even the WRX, Colbalt SS, the list goes on...

The "Bang" of the tC certianly decreases a few levels here... Now for the REST of the things like features and personal touches to the car... Those aren't actually bang bucks... No one goes "BANG!! Panoramic roof!!"

Cars are getting faster n faster and I'd be darned if the Corolla XRS don't get a pretty good run time vs the stock tC...

The "Buck" factor is definately there for the tC, but the "Bang" is still a few aftermarket years away, by that time the "Buck" might have ceased to exsist :D

btw, I would definatley have to agree bar none the SRT-4 is the best "bang for the buck"

And WTH? S2000 in a Corolla? hahah, at least save me the trouble of lashing out all kinds of funny comments and buy at least a Civic :D If theres anything worst than a S2000 Civic, it MUST be a S2000 Corolla!! :D
Old 04-24-2004 | 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by KAuss
Well to fairly consider "bang for the buck" you can't consider what you're currently driving...

I'm driving a 90 Integra LS, 130 hp.... BuKeT!

The way you determine this is to put it flat out on the market... You have to notice that the tC is pretty near the bottom of the list of cars put out in 2005... (for the bang department)

Compared to cars like the RSX Type S, the Si, even the WRX, Colbalt SS, the list goes on...

The "Bang" of the tC certianly decreases a few levels here... Now for the REST of the things like features and personal touches to the car... Those aren't actually bang bucks... No one goes "BANG!! Panoramic roof!!"

Cars are getting faster n faster and I'd be darned if the Corolla XRS don't get a pretty good run time vs the stock tC...

The "Buck" factor is definately there for the tC, but the "Bang" is still a few aftermarket years away, by that time the "Buck" might have ceased to exsist :D

btw, I would definatley have to agree bar none the SRT-4 is the best "bang for the buck"

And WTH? S2000 in a Corolla? hahah, at least save me the trouble of lashing out all kinds of funny comments and buy at least a Civic :D If theres anything worst than a S2000 Civic, it MUST be a S2000 Corolla!! :D
If we're going to be comparing, we've got to compare apples to apples here... Remember that the RSX has a base engine with 160 hp, same as the tC, with less torque. If we're talking the Type S, we'd have to compare to the tC + supercharger... and the tC'd still have the Acura licked in the cash department.

Even the base tC has as much HP and more torque than the Si... and costs $3000 less. The tC's price competitor in the Civic line is the EX coupe... which has 127 hp.

And remember that the Cobalt SS only has 170 hp... in order to top 200, you have to get the supercharger option, same as the Scion.

And the tC isn't at the bottom of the barrel for performance... compare it to any car in its price range (i.e., HX/LX/EX Civic coupes, Hyundai Elantra GT, Corolla S, Lancer OZ Rally, Focus ZX3, etc.), and it comes out pretty much on top.
Old 04-24-2004 | 11:37 PM
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Yes but every car listed is lighter... The Scion most likley won't hit 14s, but all the cars listed have a chance...

15 IMO is where I draw my mark... 15 Isn't actually slow, but you need to at least be in the 14 to be considered SORTA fast...

Thats why I said the "buck" factor is there for the tC but the "bang" is a few aftermarket years behind...
Old 04-25-2004 | 07:35 AM
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And WTH? S2000 in a Corolla? hahah, at least save me the trouble of lashing out all kinds of funny comments and buy at least a Civic If theres anything worst than a S2000 Civic, it MUST be a S2000 Corolla!!
What's so wrong about an S2000 powered corolla? it's lighter than the honda and you can actually carry spare wheels when you go to the track.

http://www.club4ag.com/faq%20and%20t...00%20Motor.htm
Old 04-25-2004 | 10:09 AM
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Hey hey :D no flame no flame :D

It was meant to be a joke!! Honda engines in a Toyota must be like Romeo and Juliet LOL... Two families that should never of been together :D

Seriously if you can fit a S2000 in anythig less powerful... What is there NOT to like?

That definately don't seem like a weekend project tho HAHA... Sick but that isn't even a car anymore :D It's a motor on wheels :D
Old 04-25-2004 | 10:44 AM
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Owned an 84 corolla 4 door for years. Great car. It just needed a little more power.
Course I would have gone with a toyota mill myself, but hey, good job Gunner1.
Old 04-25-2004 | 10:52 PM
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wow. you can actually fit an F20C in an AE86. cool
Old 04-25-2004 | 11:18 PM
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ok both the Z and the REX are both great cars w/ different capabilities...i love the way the Z looks vs the REX, but the fun factor when it comes to driving is definitely the REX. I have friends w/ both and driven both for a day....even if a stock Z does a better 1/4 run, so what? the rex can out manuver (with a good driver thats been properly trained) a Z (same as the other driver). Seriously, throwing side line comments to throw the subject off doesnt really accomplish sh*t im not trying to offend anyone, but im just trying to say both cars r good in its own aspects...and as far as that "i can drift the 350Z but not hte rex" that was a stupid comment haha. seriously u can drift the Z so what? i can rally race the ____ out of a rex? see my point? Thats not a valid argument. Both cars are great. It's a matter of personal opinion of what your looking for. If you want a straight p***y magnet get a Z, it works....hell get the convertible. if you want a car w/ loads of fun factor and easily modded for good power the wrx does it well. im not saying the Z cant be modded. it can be, but the $ for $ for the hp vs hp, the wrx has the advantage. so yeah thats my 2 cents haha
Old 04-25-2004 | 11:20 PM
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oh yeah stickin 2 the subject, the tC aint half bad. I'm waiting to see the final build "quality" of the car before i jump to conclusions. the car looks okay to me, and definitely seems like a good bargain, but id like to see the finals of everything not what the rumor mill turns out before i make a decision on the tC
Old 04-25-2004 | 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by quadoptix
ok both the Z and the REX are both great cars w/ different capabilities...i love the way the Z looks vs the REX, but the fun factor when it comes to driving is definitely the REX. I have friends w/ both and driven both for a day....even if a stock Z does a better 1/4 run, so what? the rex can out manuver (with a good driver thats been properly trained) a Z (same as the other driver). Seriously, throwing side line comments to throw the subject off doesnt really accomplish sh*t im not trying to offend anyone, but im just trying to say both cars r good in its own aspects...and as far as that "i can drift the 350Z but not hte rex" that was a stupid comment haha. seriously u can drift the Z so what? i can rally race the ____ out of a rex? see my point? Thats not a valid argument. Both cars are great. It's a matter of personal opinion of what your looking for. If you want a straight p***y magnet get a Z, it works....hell get the convertible. if you want a car w/ loads of fun factor and easily modded for good power the wrx does it well. im not saying the Z cant be modded. it can be, but the $ for $ for the hp vs hp, the wrx has the advantage. so yeah thats my 2 cents haha
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Old 04-26-2004 | 02:21 AM
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Z makes a nice @ss drift car and sounds mean as heck with intake/headers/exaust...sick.

WRX can haul more kids, grip in the snow, and make that "pshhh" sound when you shift. WRX sound funny opened up...sickly.

I would much rather have the Z.
Old 04-26-2004 | 02:30 AM
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Yeah, but for the price of a nicely equipped Z, you can get an Sti. Or an EvoVIII. Or, for that matter, a G35 or a 3 series. I'd rather have any of those than a Z.
Old 04-26-2004 | 02:35 AM
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How is i cant drift a z and not a rex a stupid comment. it makes since to me im into drifting and would like to drift and i cant do it in my wrx.
Old 04-26-2004 | 02:39 AM
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Originally Posted by saken4
How is i cant drift a z and not a rex a stupid comment. it makes since to me im into drifting and would like to drift and i cant do it in my wrx.
I'm not entirely sure what kind of sense you're trying to make here, but the basic point is that in order to be a good drifting car, a car has to have a)rwd (which both the Z and the RX have) and b)lots of low end torque (which the RX does not have). Without enough low end torque to break the wheels free of the road, you're just going to accelerate, not drift. If your car doesn't make at 2500 or 3000 RPM's, then it's going to be very, very hard to drift without doing some nasty things to your clutch.
Old 04-26-2004 | 03:08 AM
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iono about lots of low end torque cuz the ae86 doesn't have that much low end torque but its still a drift car
Old 04-26-2004 | 03:11 AM
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I'm not entirely sure what kind of sense you're trying to make here, but the basic point is that in order to be a good drifting car, a car has to have a)rwd (which both the Z and the RX have) and b)lots of low end torque (which the RX does not have). Without enough low end torque to break the wheels free of the road, you're just going to accelerate, not drift. If your car doesn't make at 2500 or 3000 RPM's, then it's going to be very, very hard to drift without doing some nasty things to your clutch.
I can answer like a WRX owner..."But that's what dirt roads, rainy days, and snow is for! Haven't you ever heard of rally racing?? That's where drifting originated, those are REAL drifters."

Lol. I could really care less about the Z or the WRX. I'm just hanging out waiting for the tC...or any info regarding it. As full on car enthusiast, I can talk myself into liking any car, I love studying them all...the tC is just my latest thing.
Old 04-26-2004 | 03:24 AM
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Originally Posted by theheckwithyou
iono about lots of low end torque cuz the ae86 doesn't have that much low end torque but its still a drift car
The ae86 has a curb weight of 800 lbs. less than an RX-8. And while its peak torque was significantly lower than the RX-8's (110 lb.-ft at 4600 rpm instead of 159 lb.-ft at 5500 rpm), it made torque much lower in the power band.
Old 04-26-2004 | 03:24 AM
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The people with the Z go love your car...

The people that own the WRX go love your car...

The one that formerly own one of the two, go get a GF...

As for the rest of you, wait for the tC cause you can't afford neither car :D


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