Yeah, me too. If I had my choice of any car (well, any car under 50K), it'd be a Chrysler Crossfire SRT-6. But in my realistic price range, understanding that I've got a hundred and twenty thousand dollars in college loans coming due in six months, the tC seems like a sure bet.

 

That's me, that's me!

Haha, there's some amount of "cheap" in all of us that are looking at a $16k car or this would be called lexusowners.com or ilovemyporsche.net

Yeah, my AE86 does make some pretty good torque down low due to the variable intake, much better than my 1.6 miata engine. I was surprised when I first got it. My 1.6 single cam CRX Si even felt peppier than my Miata, but then it was probably the lightest of the bunch, magazine curb weight numbers aside.

The AE86 motor was ahead of its time....20 years ago. I didn't believe it when I heard it put like that, but I'm a believer now.

But it's no F20C, that's for sure.

 

I have yet to drive a RWD car... Well I drove my friend's MR2 around the block a few times but I never got to play with it...

I wouldn't mind having a AE86 just to learn some basic RWD handling... My friends however all own some sort of RWD car and I've been in many... They don't drive it like a RWD should be driven :D

I am in the #3 section and I need to get up off my ___ and get a GF haha...

 

thats me also

 

I've driven a few RWD cars, for a time or two; the only one I've ever driven with any regularity was a Mustang. It's a heck of a lot better than FWD, I'll tell you that much.

 

yeah. driving RWD is ALOT better than FWD. if only i can get a 240sx...

 

Under regular driving I really didn't notice much difference if at all... However I feel extensive understeer with FWD cars while cornering so I do know how that sucks... Torque steer also...

I haven't had a chance to track a RWD car, so that is something I'm still looking for before I save enough for a tC...

 

RWD cars are a blast - especially in the snow. I use the excuse that I'm "learning how the car handles in adverse conditions so we can be safe" when I'm whipping around corners and loosing the back end.

as for the can't afford neither -
Cars are a waste of money, but you need to get around. Purchasing a tC vs anything (rex just happens to be my alternate, but that could change) has to do with the exceptional value. If I could afford a 45k BMW, I'd still be looking at the tC (and knocking off 25k of a mortgage).

The tC looks like a winner compared to all cars and I squirm because I cant see it in person to make my final assessment. A 17k car that I can feel like a pimp vs a "value-minded comsumer". Sign me up! I finally got my poster from scion today and it just makes it worse!

 

i want my poster...

 

I have avoided this since some people here have no idea what they are talking about.

20lbs boost on a WRX? Right. Not gonna happen without HEAVY mods.

WRX handles about as well as a 350Z and about as fast... what is so much more fun?

WRX is NOT 4wd. It is AWD, big difference.

So I am ending this convo, until someone has something intellegent to say about the WRX vs 350Z debate. And one loser said the WRX is not as "practical" as the Z HA HA HA.

Anywho... back on track. The tc. I am considering an automatic, but I dunno.

 

cant a WRX run with around 14-16 psi with stock internals? i read on a wrx forum once and a few people were running the WRX with that much psi with no problems at all.. i dont know why i posted this. i guess because with a WRX running 14-16psi stock is like a 350z stock. power wise... i dont know

 

yeah, all you need is a boost guage and then i think you can run 15psi. at least whats what my b/f is running with his.

 

Heard that both the Rex and the Z have tranny probs. Won't have to worry about that with the tC.

 

The boost gauge does nothing but monitor... I think you meant boost controller? I've seen people use MBC to boost it up to 16... I don't know if it's SAFE to do so tho... Anyone claiming it to be safe is BSing... WRXs break under stock conditions... Putting more power into it would only make the inevitable quicker... I've been around i-club and a lot of those people just won't stop and admit sometimes...

 

oops, yeah, thats what i ment to say, thanks :oops:
If you take the cats off then i believe it's "safer"

 

Then it becomes illegal... If you're gonna step into that region of modding, then might as well go for the whole shebang :D As for being safer has nothing to do with what breaks I think... If you took out the cats it'll let the car breath easier, but the added torque will break the tranny / drive train... That is the weakest part of the WRX, the owners will tell :D But still, even a MBC can put a WRX above and beyond a lot of cars...

(A MBC is never safe since there is no control... All it does it limit... Unless you're using an electronic boost controller, then you're gonna be risking things regardless...)

 

whats MBC?

 

Manual
Boost
Controller

 

ohh ok. thats what i had in mind but i just wanted to make sure i was right. thanks.

 

The '02-'04 WRX trannies are weak as hell and completely suck *****. The design is over 20 years old! Nevertheless, for '05 all turbo models are getting what Subaru is calling a "reinforced" tranny (same tranny but with stronger parts and more synchros).

These will be found on the WRX as well as on the new 2.5Lt cars (except STi, of course). The F-XTs were the first to get these trannies and so far so good. I just purchased an F-XT with the 5-speed, so I hope it's all that Subaru promises it is.