Neothin

So yeah, i decided to go to jorge's after leaving Old Town tonight. We took I4 home and took a few back roads to get to jorge's place. As we're comming down Aloma, Jorge and I come up on up on a right hand curve. Signs were posted signalling for 25 mph around the curve. So here Jorge and I are, going somewhere between 40 and 45 around this curve. Jorge is in the outside lane, i'm on the inside. Suddenly the back end of the tC starts comming around, FAST. I cut the wheel back to the left, the rear end catches, and swings me back straight. Jorge said that the tC was completely sideways on the road and seriously was only a few feet from smacking the side of the xB. It was CRAZY! I seriously thought i was going to hit a curb somewhere.

don't go fast around corners on aloma, PERIOD.


the moral of this story: Green xB's turn faster than blue tC's! bB emblem FTW!

nolanspawn

Yah I have noticed that the TC isnt the best in the corners on stock suspension. However it does ride smoother than my last car

Neothin

i'm not on stock suspension though..

S-tech's
hotchkis sways (soft front, medium back)
front strut bar
ingalls etd

ah well, at least the tC didnt end up like my last car...

nolanspawn

yikes

captainlaziness

Harrison........again, you are nuts.

Neothin

i really dont know what happened... seriously, the xB took the corner just fine all it had was stech's!

captainlaziness

S-Techs too low perhaps?

KINGxOFxSKA

Pshhhh... Stop showing off Harrison

Matt_Burgess

Wow, crazy but the spoiler is still mint.. My brothers got one, nice fast little car. I was thinking about getting an SRT but , insurance and i didn't want to copy him. But i luv my tC and i think it looks better than the SRT

ADRdesignCo

glad to hear your ok man.. but i blame the stechs being too low. lol but thats cause im biased

Neothin

*sigh* and i want coilovers/bags to go lower

ADRdesignCo

isnt the "ideal" drop for the tC 1.5 all around? thats what i rememberd hearing somewhere someplace..

Whocares05050

Harrison, ur crazy. stop falling asleep at the wheel

Neothin

dude! i wasnt asleep this time, i was VERY much awake

paul34

what part of Aloma was this??

was it a banked curve? If its not banked you gotta follow the yellow speed limit thing or you're pretty much screwed

Nexis

My $.02

First, I am not flaming, but giving advice from an older racer to a younger one ... you should probably spend some time on an auto X track somewhere learning the limits of your car ... believe it or not, you car talks to you and tells you what it is going to do before it does it. When it hits that point, due to your time in a safe enviroment, you will know what it is going to do before it does it therefore preventing it in the first place.

I am glad that you and your friends are ok, but that could have turned out badly. Spending some time learning about your car will prevent this one from ending up like the last one, and make it so that you can live a long, happy, safe, life ..,. while still enjoying you car and everything that it will do.

Matt_Burgess

After you dropped your car, did you ever get an allignment done? Sometimes when you do a low drop like that and don't get it alligned the tires are not completly flat on the ground. Which in turn = bad handling...

BoiseAuctioneer

Raced a tc in my turbo xb back in the day and we went around a corner a llittle faster then I was comfortable with but I controlled the inside corner and the tC could not so he ended up with a little curb rash on his tc so yes the xb does corner better then the tc which is so backwards.

engifineer

xBs do horrible (I believe in the range of .1 g lower than a tc) on a skidpad and much worse in the slalom.. so an xB will not outcorner, or even match a tC stock for stock. They may behave differently which makes one or the other feel better for each driver, but the xB is no handling machine ny any stretch. The xA I drove even handled terribly. I drove an xB once and could tell right away that it was nowhere near what some of the owners claimed in handling. If you cant keep up with an xB in the corners.. you need to drive differently.

Road and Tracks tests:

xB: .71g on the skidpad, 57.9 mph in the slalom
tC: .82g on the skidpad and 64mph on the slalom

Conditions can vary from test to test, but R&T at least use the same skidpad for most of thier tests as far as I know.

In either case, I am suprised that someone thinks the xB can outhandle the tC. And with a rear sway and some good springs, it is not even a comparison any longer :D

As far as your oversteer, and I mean no disrespect here, that is driver error, as is 99.99% of the time when people mention "snap oversteer"... it happens when you outdrive the car, come into a corner too hot, try to muscle the car around, etc. And also remember that the inside of a corner is shorter, so you have to watch your speed more.

I had some a-hole in an audi a6 about 1 foot off my bumper in an industrial area near my house a while back, like he was wanting to force me to speed up. There was a sweeping 90 degree corner ahead with nothing but grass around it. I took it at a fairly comfortable speed (about 15 mph slower than I know my car can take it easilly), looked back to see him sideways in the road behind me. Does that mean the audi cant keep up with the tC? No, it means the driver couldnt handle his car.

Zander416

I'd tend more to blame it on the soft front and medium rear sway setup. A stiffer rear sway promotes oversteer.

Z