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Old 11-23-2009 | 04:15 PM
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Well I have no key right now and no chip. I have a couple of keys cut to fit in my tC but none have a programed immobilizer. Don McGill in Katy wants more than the car is worth to program a new one. It's either find a way to program a new chip to the car without a working chip or just toss the car and start fresh.
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There is a programming sequence posted here in SL on how to reprogram the key - lots of turning ignition on and off and pushing buttons and opening the driver door . . . it will sound crazy but it will work. Search is your friend!
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I did search and that is to reprogram the keyless entry I thought.
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How do you not have any of the immobilizer chips?
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1. Start with the following conditions: You are in the drivers seat-
a. Key is out of the ignition
b. Driver door is open (all other doors closed)
c. Driver door is unlocked (other doors don't matter)
2. Insert and remove the key from the ignition twice within 5 seconds
3. Close and open the drivers door twice within 40 seconds
4. Insert the key into the ignition and remove it.
5. Close and open the drivers door twice within 40 seconds
6. Insert the key into the ignition
7. Close the door
8. Turn the key in the ignition on and then off.
9. Remove the key from the ignition
10. The power locks should automatically cycle once to indicate that you have successfully entered program mode.
11. Within 40 seconds of the entering program mode:
a. Press both transmitter lock and unlock buttons SIMULTANEOUSLY for a duration of from 1 to 1.5 seconds.
b. Within 3 seconds, press the transmitter lock button for more than 1 second and release.
c. If the transmitter has been successfully programmed, the power locks will automatically cycle once. If they cycle twice, the remote has not been accepted.
d. If multiple remotes are to be programmed, repeat steps A-C
12. Open drivers door


This is for the lock and unlock.
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I think when I was playing around with a bigass magnet it killed my chip... My only chip
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Ya, those instructions are for keyless entry. Not the immobilizer.

If you don't have that part, you might be f-d.
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Chris was saying Draxcaliber and Grage1217 have done it with ECU swaps but I cannot get a hold of them and cannot find the posts using google or search with Scionlife clubsciontc and yoursciontc
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garage1217 responded (thank you btw) saying he can't... Anyone else done an ecu swap where you reprogrammed your keys without using a stealership?
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Wiped the chip with a magnet - wow guess I will have to be more careful with some of my magnets. Don't you just love technology that prevents you from using your own stuff! NOT!
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lol @ instructions
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it was a very large magnet not something a normal person can get.
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Originally Posted by tCkid2005
lol @ instructions
you know.. that IS the procedure to program the keyless remote right?

FYI, you're SOL... you're gonna need the stealership to help you..
bring lube. it might be less painful that way.
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stealership wanted over a grand and a week to do it. Sterling McCall said 1 hour and 60 bucks... Gonna remove my body kit so I can tow it alllll the way out there. Unless someone who has done the ecu swap can chime in
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it should not be worth over a grand. only a few hundred to rekey the whole thing since you lost.. all 3 keys??

how'd you only end up with one key and then messing that one up?

the ecu swap procedure will not work in your instance... as the only method to fix everything at this point is using TechStream.... (multi-thousand dollar laptop that the dealership has)

obviously the stealership asking for over a grand and a week with the car... are completely stupid and probably would need that much time for them to figure out how to use the laptop.. as i doubt they anyone trained to use it properly (which sounds like they don't..)

it will be a more complex procedure since you don't have a working chip whatsoever... and i ask again.. what happened to your other spare keys?

some specialized locksmiths can actually reprogram everything as well... though those that are trained and have the proper equipment are most times.. hard to find.
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bought the car at a police auto auction through a buddy of mine who is a dealership car buyer. Only had 1 key with it. The pinning the ecu trick for 30 minutes won't work?
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the SST=Special Service Tool (SST) 09843-18040 (Basically a jumper wire).
Old 11-24-2009 | 02:09 AM
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Got it sitting outside with the jumpers now hopefully this is all I need. Chris you have saved me so many times. If you wanted to come out and do those motor mounts tomorrow lemme know, I have a dr appt at 3 though.
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thats cool...ill see what i can swing. do you want to ship that wastegate out to cwatts cause i held off on sending his goody box till tommarow so if you want to just throw that thing in the box ill send it all out wed. or do you not have the new wastegate yet?



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