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Old 09-22-2004 | 10:04 AM
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well i just got off work a little while ago and was at a stoplight. take in mind this stoplight is on a road where no one after dark travels on and is a nice 3 lane raod each direction with a giant median in between with hills and trees. next to me is the monte carlo. the light turns green and we both go at the exact same time. made it up to 75 mph, all the time pulling further away from the monte with a car and a half length lead. then low and behold a bright and shiny police car...the only other car the whole distance of the road. he was cruising down the other direction and my radar detector went crazy. his lights came on and he whipped a u-turn. low and behold he chose to pull me over instead of the monte? so i get 3 different police cars to come say hi. automatically get theatened to be taken to jail...that's always fun to hear. stepped out of the car for 15 minutes staring at the bright new shiny cop lights...i'm still seeing spots. the officer comes over and writes me 3 citations, 75 in a 45, running a red light, and address being wrong on the license. can't do defensive or deffered for the speeding, 30 mph over. that will be a nice hefty fine. Insurance will go up, rock on!

the moral of the story is, i will be paying a crapload of $ for my tickets & insurance and will not be racing for a long long while. HOWEVER i did beat the 02 monte carlo ss.
Old 09-22-2004 | 10:50 AM
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I'm pretty sure that the SS wasn't racing you...otherwise...
Old 09-22-2004 | 01:02 PM
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*there is some sarcasm in this post*

well i just got off work a little while ago and was at a stoplight. take in mind this stoplight is on a road where no one after dark travels on and is a nice 3 lane raod each direction with a giant median in between with hills and trees. next to me is the monte carlo. the light turns green and we both go at the exact same time. made it up to 75 mph, all the time pulling further away from the monte with a car and a half length lead. then low and behold a bright and shiny police car...the only other car the whole distance of the road. he was cruising down the other direction and my radar detector went crazy. his lights came on and he whipped a u-turn. low and behold he chose to pull me over instead of the monte? so i get 3 different police cars to come say hi. automatically get theatened to be taken to jail...that's always fun to hear. stepped out of the car for 15 minutes staring at the bright new shiny cop lights...i'm still seeing spots. the officer comes over and writes me 3 citations, 75 in a 45, running a red light, and address being wrong on the license. can't do defensive or deffered for the speeding, 30 mph over. that will be a nice hefty fine. Insurance will go up, rock on!

the moral of the story is, i will be paying a crapload of $ for my tickets & insurance and will not be racing for a long long while. HOWEVER i did beat the 02 monte carlo ss.
idioit. a monte carlo SS would destroy you in reverse, this is the most inane post i've ever read.

How can a cop do a u turn in the middle of the road when there is a big center divider?

This whole post must have been sarcasm
Old 09-22-2004 | 01:56 PM
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Modern Monte Carlos are garbage. 0-60 ~ 8.5 sec and 1/4 mi ~ 16.5 sec. They aren't sports cars by any means, so I'm not sure why you guys have such a hard-on for them.

Too bad about the tickets, but everybody gets tickets now and then.
Old 09-22-2004 | 03:34 PM
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Take it easy, man. Several years ago, I was racing with a SLK in my Subaru SVX and we go up to about 100mph on highway. I can see the cop coming from behind and I slow down. That idiot was still going like 100+. But you know what? I was the one who got pulled over. I guess it is easier to pull over a slower car, you know, to fulfill their monthly quota. Anyway, by the time the cop's laser hit me, I was going like 89 and got a big ticket. But, heck, like jason said, we all get ticket once in a while.
Old 09-22-2004 | 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Harman
Take it easy, man. Several years ago, I was racing with a SLK in my Subaru SVX and we go up to about 100mph on highway. I can see the cop coming from behind and I slow down. That idiot was still going like 100+. But you know what? I was the one who got pulled over. I guess it is easier to pull over a slower car, you know, to fulfill their monthly quota. Anyway, by the time the cop's laser hit me, I was going like 89 and got a big ticket. But, heck, like jason said, we all get ticket once in a while.
dont they usually pull over the one that is still speeding/accelerating?
Old 09-22-2004 | 04:25 PM
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Around here we have unmarked Camaro's and Mustangs, a few Bonnevilles, a couple Monte Carlo's, and quite a few Impalas. People get pulled over left and right for trying to race them
Old 09-22-2004 | 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by JasonH
...so I'm not sure why you guys have such a hard-on for them.
Sorry...my post was just an assumption...and I hate assumptions...Man, I suck. :oops:
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Originally Posted by Mediocre Generica
The new SS's are supercharged and should rip you a new _______. The older ones of the same bodystyle have only the 3.8L N/A and are not impressive.
Originally Posted by Car & Driver web site
Vehicle type: front-engine, front-wheel-drive, 5-passenger, 2-door coupe
Price as tested: $31,155 (base price: $27,895)
Engine type: supercharged pushrod 16-valve V-6, iron block and heads, port fuel injection
Displacement: 231 cu in, 3791cc
Power (SAE net): 240 bhp @ 5200 rpm
Torque (SAE net): 280 lb-ft @ 3600 rpm

Transmission: 4-speed automatic
Wheelbase: 110.5 in
Length/width/height: 197.9/72.7/55.2 in
Curb weight: 3530 lb

Zero to 60 mph: 6.5 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 18.2 sec
Street start, 5–60 mph: 6.7 sec
Standing 1/4-mile: 15.1 sec @ 93 mph
Top speed (governor limited): 112 mph
Braking, 70–0 mph: 186 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.83 g
EPA fuel economy, city driving : 18 mpg
C/D-observed fuel economy: 18 mpg
Originally Posted by Car & Driver web site
ACCELERATION, Seconds
Zero to 30 mph: 2.4
40 mph: 3.8
50 mph: 5.3
60 mph: 7.4
70 mph: 9.7
80 mph: 12.6
90 mph: 16.4
100 mph: 20.9
110 mph: 28.4
Street start, 5-60 mph: 8.0
Top-gear acceleration, 30-50 mph: 8.5
50-70 mph: 9.0
Standing 1/4-mile: 15.7 sec @ 88 mph
Top speed (governor limited): 127 mph

BRAKING
70-0 mph @ impending lockup: 179 ft

HANDLING
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.81 g
Understeer: minimal moderate excessive

FUEL ECONOMY
EPA city driving: 22 mpg
EPA highway driving: 30 mpg
C/D-observed: 24 mpg
Edit: My bad should say what one is what if you cant figure it out. Top is a new SS S/C & the bottom is the tC. Even though the SS has way more power, the tC almost does as fast of a 1/4.
Old 09-22-2004 | 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Mediocre Generica
The new SS's are supercharged and should rip you a new _______. The older ones of the same bodystyle have only the 3.8L N/A and are not impressive.
Well, he said it was an '02, which mean no supercharger.

Also, 0-60 mph in 6.7 sec. and 1/4 mile in 15.3 sec isn't exactly "new _______" territory.
Old 09-22-2004 | 05:50 PM
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I'll never understand why people are impressed by street racing like this....

If you want to race, get out and run

If you were talking about running into Maurice Greene or Marion Jones, and beating then in a 200m, that'd be impressive
Old 09-22-2004 | 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by jlaznlover
Originally Posted by Harman
Take it easy, man. Several years ago, I was racing with a SLK in my Subaru SVX and we go up to about 100mph on highway. I can see the cop coming from behind and I slow down. That idiot was still going like 100+. But you know what? I was the one who got pulled over. I guess it is easier to pull over a slower car, you know, to fulfill their monthly quota. Anyway, by the time the cop's laser hit me, I was going like 89 and got a big ticket. But, heck, like jason said, we all get ticket once in a while.
dont they usually pull over the one that is still speeding/accelerating?
That's what I thought! Anyway, similar incident happened to my gf and she asked the cop why pulled her over while there were others who went way faster than her. The cop told her this fishing story:

Cop: have you ever gone fishing?
gf: One time!
Cop: When you fish you want to hook all the big fishes in the water, right? But have you ever caught all the big fishes in the lake?
gf: .........

Somehow, this story sound so familiar.

Anyway, moral of the story: Sorry, you're the unlucky and easy one!

I have never race again since that big ticket.
Old 09-22-2004 | 07:29 PM
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I'm pretty sure that the SS wasn't racing you...otherwise...
i know the person and we were racing.

idioit. a monte carlo SS would destroy you in reverse, this is the most inane post i've ever read.

How can a cop do a u turn in the middle of the road when there is a big center divider?

This whole post must have been sarcasm
thanks for the name calling. i beat the monte carlo ss, too bad you weren't in the car to see. there are u turn spots in the center divider every so often.
Old 09-22-2004 | 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by JasonH
Originally Posted by Mediocre Generica
The new SS's are supercharged and should rip you a new _______. The older ones of the same bodystyle have only the 3.8L N/A and are not impressive.
Well, he said it was an '02, which mean no supercharger.

Also, 0-60 mph in 6.7 sec. and 1/4 mile in 15.3 sec isn't exactly "new _______" territory.
Ok, so I exaggerated a bit, but a full second to sixty and a half second in the quarter are pretty significant.
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Originally Posted by Mediocre Generica
Originally Posted by JasonH
Originally Posted by Mediocre Generica
The new SS's are supercharged and should rip you a new _______. The older ones of the same bodystyle have only the 3.8L N/A and are not impressive.
Well, he said it was an '02, which mean no supercharger.

Also, 0-60 mph in 6.7 sec. and 1/4 mile in 15.3 sec isn't exactly "new _______" territory.
Ok, so I exaggerated a bit, but a full second to sixty and a half second in the quarter are pretty significant.
Yes but when you think about how much more a SS S/C runs that is crap. You could buy a 350Z or RX-8 & run near that stock & save more still.
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Originally Posted by chucksu
Edit: My bad should say what one is what if you cant figure it out. Top is a new SS S/C & the bottom is the tC. Even though the SS has way more power, the tC almost does as fast of a 1/4.
.6 seconds is quite ia bit...
Old 09-22-2004 | 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by chucksu
Yes but when you think about how much more a SS S/C runs that is crap. You could buy a 350Z or RX-8 & run near that stock & save more still.
Ok...

1) You NEVER pay sticker on run of the mill American cars. NEVER.
and
2) Even not paying sticker, they're still overpriced for what you get.

Performance, design, price

Pick two to compare. Trying to compare any more is useless.
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did he actually gun you? cause, you can fight the ticket if he didn't i think. i know in Hawaii, they have to fill out all there paperwork exactly right. and you have to be gunned, or they have to follow you for a mile while you do that speed. but, then again, if you don't get impounded for street racing, i guess you should count yourself lucky.
Old 09-23-2004 | 01:23 AM
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Originally Posted by empleh
did he actually gun you? cause, you can fight the ticket if he didn't i think. i know in Hawaii, they have to fill out all there paperwork exactly right. and you have to be gunned, or they have to follow you for a mile while you do that speed. but, then again, if you don't get impounded for street racing, i guess you should count yourself lucky.
Old 09-23-2004 | 01:41 AM
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I have a 70 monte carlo wanna race?
Sorry to hear about the tickets
Did you run the red light?
And im pretty sure you can fight the ticket gunned
fight it you might get the judge to lower the fine or drop it all together


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