zac

Ive had 35's and 40's and ive never had a problem, i might just be lucky,
I love the stiff ride and i have never even driven my car on a dirt road so its ok plus no snow down here!
after having 3 low riders and lowered cars with expensive wheels and low profile tires you tend to notice what bumps in the road cost money and what ones are ok!

any way i see your point on the tires i didnt really think about that but your totally right if you added it up it wouldnt be a very good deal, plus like you said if you do have problems what do you do send it back and ride on your spare?, i dont feel confident buying anything on-line
i also dont really understand the plus zero sizing, can you explain that

iowagary

Yeah... if you're going for the lowrider look and especially if you're from the southern half of the country (I'm from San Diego, so I know about good flat roads without rain on them), the winter traction that I was after pretty much doesn't matter.

As for buying online, I'm a big fan. I checked out all the reviews online and I buy almost everything online, but just knowing that Discount Tire has like over 500 locations that will service these are important to me. I didn't want the cost and delay of doing things through the mail.

Ok... so as I understand it, the first number in the tire size (215 stock, 225 plus zero) is the width of the top of the tire tread. So a plus zero sizing gives you mostly just wider tires. There is also some difference in the circumference of the 225/45-17 over the 215/45-17s that came stock though - they had a program at DT so you could see the difference. It showed me that with these tires, if the speedo said I was going 65, I'd be going 65.9, so it's not much of a difference. I think it said that there was like .4" more circumference to these tires. So in a very minor way, this should also raise the gearing a little bit - good for highway cruising and top speed. All in all, no big difference.

putz

no you just can't drive.

zac

so its kind of like extra tread on the tire? i understand how the sizing of tires is
the second number is actually how tall it is from the top of the wheel
the first is how much of the tire is in contact with the road (width)
and the third is the inside diameter (wheel size)
feel free to correct me if i am wrong

iowagary

I think you're mostly right on the sizing thing. The second number is an indication of how tall the sidwall is, but it's actually a ratio (this is kinda confusing). For example, 215/45-17 means that the tread width is 215 mm across. the 45 means that the sidewall height is 45% of 215. So the bigger the number, the bigger the sidewall as a percentage, but you could technically have a 225/30-17 with a bigger sidwall then a 175/40-17 or something.

zac

ya i have heard something like that before, they gotta make everything so damn confusing!
thanks for the lesson

ScionTCTrav

was it a manual tc?? if so..if you had a twm short throw u mighta been even with him..but u gotta shift fast and yes it is all about the driver

iowagary

Somehow I doubt the short shifter makes that much of a difference - I know it improves your shift speed, but I think we'll all agree that kind of thing matters much more when you've got everything else ironed out - like not peeling out and stuff. If he was pro, he'd be racing at a track. I'm glad you got the race in - we all need to learn to be better drivers.

thursday

im sorry dude....u dont know how to drive then...i have smoked 3 civic si's(2x 2004's and one 2002) and these races were not even close.....the si cant touch the tc's tourque and thats when u gotta nail the shifts and then its all easy from there...i think you should learn how to drive better metalranger33....also ur tc should be taken away from u for getting beat by a crappy SI

thursday

actually the tc(manual) is 2907 and the SIis @2758 so i mean the weight has nothing to do with it...so i will say it again...no good TC driver should lose to any kind of civic

metalranger33

haha your a tool, i do know how to drive but im sorry maybe the person you raced needs to be a better driver and stop feeding your ego