Sucks...

Looks like we're in for another recall...

Autoblog.com Wrote:

I'm wondering what's going to happen as a result of this. Are they just going to put 3M film on everyone's roofs? What if the roofs actually shatter while driving down the road? Apparently NHTSA reports include reports of monroofs that are open shattering if they catch wind sheer just right... causing vibration and then glass shattering.

 

posted already

 

Where?

 

Nice! another tC "Selling" point.

 

regardless, I'm still going to buy mine...

 

Considering the number of tCs produced, this is a small problem. I read on another thread that linked to Bloomberg.com that theres only been a report of one injury. And if the windsheer hits it just right, you have to be going at a pretty high rate of speed (highway speeds) in order to get that sunroof to vibrate. I think I rmemember seeing in the owners manual that you shouldn't have your sunroof open at speeds above 55MPH. This isn't a real big issue considering Nissan Altima's notorious engine fires, the famed Wilderness A/T tire blowouts, and the recall of 4 years worth of durangos.

 

Myabe we'll get a free Scion toy with this one if they do something to change it.

 

The owners manual does NOT say you shouldn't have your sunroof open at speeds greater than 55 mph.

And some of the "sunroof explosions" happened while the sunroofs were closed.

 

well, what counts is that the NHTSA is actually looking into it rather than us having a few threads retelling disasters in a forum

 

Not surprising... tC roofs are full of problems (at least for my 2005 tC). Take a look at a spontaneous fracture break on my sunroof deflector while driving down the interstate. I didn't hear or notice any kind of road debris impacting the deflector. The sunroof was in the closed position at the time of the break and it was around 40 degrees outside.




Has anyone else reported similar problems to this? I've been away from the forums for quite a while and haven't kept up to date. Thanks!

 

omg, i hate when people cop out by saying, "well, other makes have worse issues, so you should just be happy with the tc's relatively obscure flaws". That is such BS.

I don't care if every other car in the world blows up when you step on the brakes, i paid 17k for a "toyota-quality product" that markets itself as being better than the competition.

1 shattered moonroof is too many. Plus, don't be naive. its not like thats the ONLY problem with the moonroofs. i've had the recall. and rattles. It use to give me trouble by not closing all the way or getting stuck. Now when i'm driving at fast hiway speeds, air flows throught the gap between the deflector and the sliding glass roof panel, causing a loud vibration (which i can stop by pressing against the headliner)...perhaps this is why moonroofs shatter? point is, that obviously scion didn't REAL WORLD/road test the tc enough during R&D to know what some of the common (the ones EVERYONE has) flaws/defects are.

Thats the only thing that bothers me sometimes, it seems like scion, and Toyota in general is more concerned with advertising and marketing its brands than it is with producing real quality products.

eg. the tc, recently toyota had to stop production of certain models (i forget which) because of safety defect concerns, the Lexus "auto parallel park feature" doesn't work consistently (like they advertise in their million dollar commercials)

Sure, they've sold a lot of tcs, and only 9 (so far) have had the sunroof explode. Thats like saying hundreds of thousands of soldiers went to iraq, but only 3000 died, so its no big deal. Let me guess, goingcarcrazy, Conservative, republican red stater?

 

What does THAT have to do with anything? That's a pretty ignorant statement. It also does nothing to strengthen your argument.

I think the point that goingcrazy was trying to make is that you're not likely to suffer death, serious injury, or even a broken wallet from squeeks, rattles, and the occasional shattering monroof. Add to that there has been very few documented cases of glass breaking at random. Therefor, it's a "small problem." I'd be a lot more concerned if tCs were catching fire from faulty oil lines or electrical shorts as some other manufacturers have had issues with in the past.

But at least Toyota is stepping up to the plate and claiming responsibility instead of trying to brush this under the rug.

 

1SXETC, granted problems suck. When you buy a machine things sometimes can go wrong. Seems like for some reason you have a fire under your butt for toyota. If you think cars shouldn't or do not have mechanical problems this tells me you haven't owned many. 9 sunroofs out of 150,000 is remarkabley small. In fact WAAAYYYY under the number required to initiate a model feature recall. In case you doubt my saying that all cars have thier problems or occasional issues do a little research.

I personally know of the following

Brand new honda off the lot 500 miles tranny went out. Factory defect from a company known for quality.

Crap happens...lighten up........or in fact sell your car and buy a GM or Ford and discover a company with real quality control issues.

Thank you for your time.....drive through

 

^^^^ This by the way 1SXETC is the most apalling and ignorant comment I have witnessed. You should be ashamed and embarrased that you exploited the Iraq situation to prove a very weak point about an automobile.

 

my goodness. such chivalry.

 

that is a ____ed up thing to say about the soldiers in Iraq, if you want to make a reference like that then take your happy ___ over there and let us use you as a ____ing statistic!
they are over there risking their lives and protecting ours and you have the nerve and the ordasity to make some ____ty remark like that!? please never make a reference like that. for one you are offending people who are in there now and you are making a mockery of the ones who have already died from that war using them as a ____ty statistic like that about a CAR. next time please, i beg you to use better judgement and have more consideration to make a smarter comparison than that.
I don't support the war in Iraq but i at least respect the people who are over their fighting and the ones who have given their lives.

 

My sunroof rattles when I go over bumps when its opened, I drive with it open at 90+ and i have never had a problem than the random creaks/rattles I think generally associated with sunroofs in general. On my last tC, I had the sunroof open when I hit a tree at 70ish and didn't break/shater/crack, it got bent off the track, but I figure if its not going to break during an impact like that, then it shouldn't be a big thing to worry about. Just my opinion.

 

^^^agreed.

 

I think the problem here is that ppl DO want to open the roof at high speeds and thats where problems occur. When I 1st got my tC, I read about the problem and it seems the wind deflector kind of gets moved out of place when lifted up during high speed driving causing the larger piece of glass to not close properly. This caused the track to bend and somewhere down the line, the glass shatters.
My solution to this problem, dont open it on the freeway. I get more air coming in from the windows anyway.

 

The '05 had a major recall in early '06 if I remember correctly. I got like 5 letters in the mail about my moonroof deflector and took it into the dealership... they replaced it for free... I can't believe you didn't get any letters about it...