UCSDPinoy

What panel and what foam tape? where? :?

rounder

The last thing Scion Corp. wants is the perception that they don't care about these issues. I doubt that they want to have unhappy customers because then word of mouth will quickly spread that their cars are not built up to par. I fully expect Scion Corp. to issue TSBs regarding most if not all these issues.

jrussell

Not quite sure about Ghost's post in terms of credibility...... in any case.....

If I were Scion Corp rolling out a brand new brand costing multi-million dollars to do so........ I would care BIG TIME about ANY issue big or small............

Have a great day...

Cybergypsy

Ditto....they should care about every creak or rattle

greenranger

I am a scion fan and couldn't wait for the tC to come out but that ive seen them and driven one I wouldn't invest my money in one. It handles poorly and the interior looks nice but is of poor cheap quality. I was really dissapointed I had my heart set on getting one. The car was not as powerful as it should be. Too mainy complaints about the creaking and groaing due to body flex etc. its not really showing toyota build quality i know im probably gonna get flamed because people on this forum don't like to here anything negative about it. I guess toyota felt calling it a scion came in handy when they built it so they could relax on the quality so that it would not be associated with the parent company each time it fails. I think a little over a year is too short to contsruct a new body design that will have a glass roof and then get the machines to mass produce it. It's bound to have problems. oh well hope you guys that got one don't regret it. its just not my cup of tea. maybe when the 06 comes out im in no hurry ;)

JasonH

What are you comparing it to? I feel the build quality is better than Mazda3 or WRX and about equal to a Mini. As for power, it also has more power (and feels like it has more power) than a Mazda3. Handling is as good as a Mazda3 with more compliance over sharp bumps.

I don't know what you're comparing it to, but maybe your expectations were just unrealistic.

greenranger

sounds to me that some of you are quick to tone down problems with the TC. most of these issues aren't what people expect from a new car. I test drove a manual and was sorely dissapointed especially after getting my hopes about one.It handles acceptably but is just more of a show car then the performance compact it was marketed as. you can tell that it is a car that was thrown together. 13 months is pretty fast to design a car and expect the engine and other fittings to mesh with the design especfially when a roof of all glass is thrown on it. I feel it should have had more planning. and will not be buying one. I guess they think that alot of us youths are all about show and they are right but I will not be buying one maybe an 06 but not the 05. The price is nice and looks good on paper but I personally don't have 18k (which is about the total cost of a base TC) to invest in it. for those that own one hope you manage to enjoy it.

JasonH

^^ You didn't answer my question. What are you comparing it to.

Also, the way Toyota designed and got this to market so quickly is impressive. They had all the resources of Toyota and Lexus at their disposal to make this work. I believe it's a testament to Japanese manufacturing that they were able to pull it off, and do it so well.

I have no problems or complaints, so I'm not toning down anything.

fearturtle44

With anything, you will never get 100% approval. So far I have read about 10 reviews from major publications. ALL of them were either rather postive or VERY positive. Can all of this reviewers be wrong? I don't think so. Also the majority of posters in this forum doing reviews have been positive.

I think some people had ideas that this car would have the power, looks, handling, etc. of a $200,000 sports car. Then when they took their test drive, it did not go 0-60 in 3 seconds, etc. etc. We all should have known the specs on this car as it was posted months prior to actual delivery. I have all faith that if I have a problem with my Scion, that the dealer will investigate and fix.

If you don't like the car, then why waste your time in this forum? :?: I think we all understand that some people will not like the tC. Find a car you like and then join THAT forum. If you are an owner of a tC and having complaints, problems, then please stay in this forum and post anything good OR BAD. Then other potential tC owners can get in this forum and read good and bad things about the tC from owners who have some mileage/experience on their tC.....

Enuff for now!

Kevin

tC_Sciontist

Dont get me wrong I love the tC... I am looking to purchase one as soon as I get back from my trip in NY (in one week). But I started this forum so that I knew ALL possible problems so that when I go to the dealer, I can make sure that my car has none of these problems in my vehicle. I just want to be educated so that I can ensure that the salesman and I check the vehicle for the "known" problems before I buy anything!

ChefRaekwon

Kevin[/quote]

sounds to me that some of you are quick to tone down problems with the TC. most of these issues aren't what people expect from a new car. I test drove a manual and was sorely dissapointed especially after getting my hopes about one.It handles acceptably but is just more of a show car then the performance compact it was marketed as. you can tell that it is a car that was thrown together. 13 months is pretty fast to design a car and expect the engine and other fittings to mesh with the design especfially when a roof of all glass is thrown on it. I feel it should have had more planning. and will not be buying one. I guess they think that alot of us youths are all about show and they are right but I will not be buying one maybe an 06 but not the 05. The price is nice and looks good on paper but I personally don't have 18k (which is about the total cost of a base TC) to invest in it. for those that own one hope you manage to enjoy it.[/quot

What do you drive?
The car is not $50,000 dollars what are you expecting? Blasting a car you don't even own. If the biggest complaint about the car is a creaking moonroof than ____ I made out good. The car is 16.5k what in that price range is a better deal? Don't even mention the Mazda 3 or SRT-4 higher priced and they both have there drawbacks. I owned a 00 Civic which was heavily modded suspension wise and the TC right out of the box handles alot better. The car has got nothing but high reviews. Good luck finding a car to your approval.

tC_4EVA

Reviewers spend a couple hours and at the most a couple of days with a car when they write a review. So of course, more positive things are going to pop up. But I like to take more stock in what I read on forums like this. THAT is where you hear things like chassis flex, radio cover getting stuck, creaks here and there, rattling from the rear of the vehicle. Etc.

These are things that I would NOT expect to take place in ANY car...let alone a Toyota. Our family has an '02 Highlander Limited (complete with moonroof). We have never had ONE problem out of that vehicle. No squeaks, no rattles, nothing failing, no cubbieholes failing to operate proplerly. NOTHING. And THAT is what I would expect from Toyota with the tC. Sure, it costs about half of what we paid for the Highlander, but niggling issues like that should not be a part of the formula. I expect the price difference in quality of materials used, power available and features offered...but not in build quality.

That could be the reason why Scion scored so poorly in the recent JD Power quality testing. Scions are pulling in the lowest average buying age of any car maker...PERIOD. And we young folks are a picky bunch. At 24, I don't overlook anything I will _____ about anything. If I hear a squeak, I want it fixed, if something is rattling, I want it fixed. When I'm plunking down $17,000 - 18,000 for a car, I expect it to be PERFECT in the things that count...and one of those being build quality. Things like performance, handling, etc are a non-concern b/c you should have that figured out before you buy the vehicle. But quality issues are not to be tolerated at all in my book. Especially considering that most people here have less than a couple thousand miles on their cars.

CaliSciontCGirl

My problem is with the creaking sun roof and the short sun visor that blocks out NO SUN! Those are my only problems oh yeah and the fact that the door dont auomatically lock.

zoohay

I'm just glad that I drive a tC and you don't :D

One minor "problem": it hits speed limit easily and i wish it has a built-in radar detector...

JasonH

What kind of detector is that?

SWF_05_tC

Looks like an Escort 8500 or something, but I'm probably totally wrong .

JasonH

It looks like a Sensoro Silver Bullet. (No, I had never heard of it before either.)



It looks cool, but I wonder if it works well.

zoohay

While getting pull-over...I Love USA :D

ninerfan

ive had my tc since July 21st, I only have 50 miles on her. but the only issue, and it may not even be an issue, is that when i start the engine when it is cold i fell a slight vibration every 5 seconds until it warms up and then it gone ans the engine is smooth as silk. anyone else notice this.

franktherank

though i dont own a tc...yet....i have been in one....im a fairly big guy but managed to get fit inside (with proper seat calibrations) anyways...i wish the seats could slide more back....it sucks that it stops where it does...also as everyone probably mentioned...the very little visibility...smaller than anticipated trunk space...but man who cares...this is an awsome car!