randode

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the randode pro shifter features both shorter throw and shorter handle height

ack154

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What some of them are trying to say is that the throw is shortened ONLY because of the shorter height. And that's just not true. If it were, people would just cut/rethread their stock shifter b/c it would be pointless to buy a new one. And I don't think they would be nearly $100+ if that were the case.

randode

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and its only $60

raamaudio

Mine has a 48mm L/R and 63mm F/R through now so going to cut and weld again and make it around 42mm L/R and 45mm F/R. I also changed the angle and the height and location a bit so I can reach it perfectly while autocrossing, etc, never missed one shift yet and it will be even better the next time as matching the position perfecty for the new race seats installed since rebuilding it the first time

Cost? A couple of bucks in welding wire and gas at the most

Rick

nlombardi1

I think I'am going to buy the TWM stage 2 kit: seems like most people like TWM the best for short throw kits.

nauticac

You couldn't be more wrong. Please make sure you do your research before you post from now on.

b_wet

yeah timmy boy could not have been more wrong. lol.
EVERY SS out shortens the throw but not all reduce the hight by much. i personally have a b&m and i love all but the hieght. i had to cut to make me happier so with that in mind for those who like shorter hight and throw i would reccommend the twm2,

as for TRD it is expensive but it is a complete replacement for the shift assembly and come with the trd ****. so if you ever plan on selling your car removing will be simple and you wouldnt really end up loosing any money.

paul34

I like reduced throw but not really reduced height so much. Technically speaking, the best performance set up is a high shifter - so that you don't have to move your hand as much.

Ever seen the shifter in a Koenignessengeenseenesgegeseg CCX? It's as tall as the steering wheel! But... you barely have to move your hand to shift.

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CuRiOuSfIsH

haha! TimmyT posted that 1.5 years ago!

I agree! Thankfully B&M only reduces the height slightly. IMO, the perfect type of driving position can be found in a Miata, S2000, Saturn Sky..... basically roadsters. They have high center consoles so the shifter **** still looks low but is actually very close to the steering wheel.

ElDiablo17

I don't know if this will work, why not get a TRD true short throw and a short shifter together to make a super short throw.... I guess this'll work. I wouldn't mind trying this and see.

nauticac

LOL I didn't realize this thread was that old..idk why it got bumped somehow haha.

nlombardi1

sry that was me how bumped it.. i just wanted to know some opinions about the twm stage 2 SS kit. i can't wait until it gets here on tuesday with my momo shift ****.

BLUEMEANIE

^ You'll love it.

My CC shifter is shorter on the top and longer on the bottom effectively raising the pivot. The housing is also raised with bushings so the lower half will clear the floor. It is a real short throw shifter.

engifineer

I have the Doc Iso. short shifter installed. It reduces height and throw perfectly IMO. Not to mention his pricing is VERY decent. It is a true SS as well, since it raises the pivot point.

2fast4you

I also have the Doc I short shifter. You can't beat the price and I got it at a comfortable height for me; you're not going to find a shorter throw either.

engifineer

Very true.. and given the discussions I have been involved in with him and his posts here and on more technical based sites such as ystc I have a lot more faith in his knowledge and reliability than a lot of companies out there. I can say from experience he is a good guy to work with from both vendor and conumers perspective.

2fast4you

He took time to answer all of my technical questions, and it only took three days from order to install of a custom shifter. Plus, his shift cage bushings are very well thought out. While he changes the shifter pivot point, he raises the cage so the bottom of the shifter is back in the OEM position and you don't have to put as much effort into shifting as you do with the others.

BigMURR

word to the fellow Georgian

I bought dr. isotope's short shifterization which pretty much means he adjusts the pivot ball location and cuts the stick and rethreads it exactly like OEM (for a 50-60% reduction in throw)... oh did I mention it is only 50 bucks you can't beat that deal. I bet you can even ask him to make the shift the same height with the reduced throw, I bet he can do it.

paul34

I just looked into this and it looks pretty nice. I did notice the 50% throw reduction, however - that seems like quite a reduction! Is it possible to have "too much" reduction? It seems the other guys only go a max of 35%.

For the price, and from your guys' experiences and the description on his website, it all seems much more thought-out than other SSs out there. As a fellow engineer I can appreciate that.

Hopefully I'm not jacking the thread, but I guess the "full" package Iso offers would be best as far as upgrading the entire shifting experience, not just the shifter?

engifineer

I think it is perfect. Any more reduction either way and shifting would start to get tougher, but so far I think it is perfect. The gearswitcher package (There are two I think, but the full package) comes with the shifter, cage bushings and cable bushings. I havent installed the cable bushings simply because I have had zero time. I did the short shifter install and had to leave directly afterwards. That was two weeks ago So I will pop them in pretty soon. But I am happy with the shifter.