Good news! RS-R Ran-UP finally made it stateside!! I already ordered mine!

http://www.rs-r.com/

 

I'd like to see what the composition of that stuff is from a reputable place like Blackstone labs. Good oil doesn't need additives so I don't see the point.

 

Deleted your other 2 threads.
You dont need 3 of the same exact threads in different areas.

 

Ok, sorry, was just trying to get the word out because I know a lot of people have been waiting for this stuff....can you please move it to the 1st gen Scion Tc lounge? Thanks!

 

Never heard of it, not waiting for it.

 

seems like a buncha bs

 

Seems alot like Zmax... $50 price tag though? If youre gunnna charge that you better provide a little more proof of what it can do.

 

Damn, $50 bucks a pop

 

All engine oils, transmission fluids, etc etc. have additives that come blended in the fluids.

If they didn't have additives, all you would have is a base oil. That's why companies like Lubrizol, Afton Chemicals, Chevron Oronite, Rhein Chemie, etc etc. exists.

Additives include corrosion inhibitors, viscosity modifiers, and so forth.

As for the RS*R stuff.... no idea what it is. Not really sure what's in it. Only way to tell would be like you said and to send it to a lab.

 

I know all about it; I'm a frequent visitor to the BITOG forums. I'm saying that good oil doesn't need anything else added to it since it's already formulated appropriately by the manufacturer.

 

so they say there are dyno proven results but looking at the site, i can't find any before/after dyno sheets... unless im not looking right. idk ColonelSanders85 get us some dyno results if you can..

 

Agreed, I'll continue buying good synthetic oil for $25-$30 each oil change and pass on this $50 "dyno proven" additive.

 

Theres a review in Import Tuner of a 10whp/wtq gain on an S2000. However, in the passed there has been alot of controversy over the accuracy of Import Tuner's reviews of products and their bias. Several past writers have came out and said they manipulated results to favor a sponsoring product. Sorry, but unless I do a dyno test myself, or its performed by an uninterested 3rd party, Im not buyin it. Dyno results are easily manipulated.

 

Usually results like that comes from a car that is long past due for an oil change. That gain probably goes back down after the car is driven for awhile anyway.

 

Hard to say an oil caused hp gain unless we're playing Gran Turismo.

 

Wouldn't that improvement be more based on new oil and not nessesarly because of the snake o..er oil additive?

 

Well first thing is first, I ordered a bottle and it will be here next week, so I can at least relay the results from the butt dyno, whatever that is worth. Also, my buddy in Dallas has a 400whp STi, and he is gonna try it out too, so i'll be sure to update the thread with both of our findings. Granted, I'm not gonna see massive gains on my tc, but if I get 5hp, slightly better gas mileage, and the engine actually runs smoother, then I'm a happy camper. To any of you forced induction guys, you might yield some more obvious results.


Here is a dyno run from an independent tester:

http://octanereport.com/tech/parts-r...-additive.html

I tend to call bullshizz on a lot of stuff like this too (i.e. the "Turbonator"), but the proof really does seem to be in the pudding on this one.

Note that Import Tuner tested this stuff over a year before RS*R even started marketing this stuff in the U.S. Also, to the best of my knowledge, RS*R is not (at least not yet) a sponsor of Import Tuner.

Also note that just as a they claim, a lot of big name racing teams are actually using this product (especially in Japan). Super GT and Formula 1 seem to be some of the big early adapters upon digging through forums.

Also, I know some people poo-poo Import Tuner, but their Fact or Fiction section people love to disprove b.s. claims, most of their stuff is pretty accurate, and I dont see them throwing their rep under the bus especially on something like an oil additive:

http://www.importtuner.com/powerpage...s/viewall.html


http://www.importtuner.com/tech/impp...ive/index.html

 

Id be curious to see the results over time. Like say change oil with addition of RSR additive, dyno, dyno again after 1000 miles, dyno again after another 2000 miles. Some of the race teams may see gains as they teardown/rebuild engines constantly and are always running fresh oil/additives. Id like to see how it pans out in real life scenarios. Also, couldnt someone get a sample of this tested to figure out whats in it?

 

It would probably be kinda expensive to get it tested, but based on the fact that the original formula was developed for NASA, there's a good chance it's (at least part) titanium disulfide, which works a the nanomolecular level to increase "lubricity".

 

Well this stuff would double the cost of an oil change so I think if i was all that into it I probably would work out a deal with a local shop for some after hour testing as well as sending it off for analysis. A lot of what I've read about this stuff doesn't impress me. 15hp on a ~450hp mustang and they lost 5hp going to new oil? That's like a 3% change. My tC had about that big of a variance when it was being tuned. Maybe I'm just old enough to remember Slick50 and just a little gun shy at any additive making claims.

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