scion TC+supercharger prices
06-16-2004 | 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Straegen
personally im not much fan of the supercharger. yes it provides linear power. but i perfer a turbo setup. so i can stay out of boost and in vac. (use less gas
Gas to performance output supercharges often use less gas. Nail the throttle and they will consume more, but you are outputing significantly more power. Turbos are (as far as I know) always more effecient because they don't drain power to make power.
TRD S/C has no aftercooler/intercooler??
hehe, obiviously the S/C is easier to install
06-16-2004 | 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by ndiicx
according to my a dealer here the supercharger will be $3,500.12 or very close to that. Is that a little to steep for 50-55hp?
06-17-2004 | 04:17 AM
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Originally Posted by ndiicx
thats b4 installation he said it would be real close to that amount. would a turbo charger be better?
06-17-2004 | 11:06 PM
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Turbocharges are just more complicated and to get a better power output requires staying at optimal RPMs. Not to mention you need to tweak them to match the driver/conditions for optimal output. Racers will often have a boost control system installed so they can change the way the turbo does what it does on the fly. S/Cs are linear. You hit the gas and you can feel it from start to finish. Don't need to be an expert to use that.
Stay with a supercharger unless you know what the difference is, under what conditions a turbocharger is actually better than a supercharger, you can actually use that difference, and you REALLY care about it.
Stay with a supercharger unless you know what the difference is, under what conditions a turbocharger is actually better than a supercharger, you can actually use that difference, and you REALLY care about it.
06-18-2004 | 04:35 AM
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i would say S/C are better for daily driving. T/C are more for maximum power in the highend. not as practical as a supercharger. its just a matter of preference on this one. there is not right or wrong answer. it really depends on what you will be doing with the car. if you are just using the car for just going to work, school, or just crusing. the S/C is the best bet. turbochargers, required more work to keep it running then the S/C. for instance, if you don't have a turbo timer installed, and you are driving on the highway and late for work. obviously you wont have time to drive around the block so the turbo can slow down(the turbo can spin in upwards of 100,00rpm). if you just turn off your car after running your engine pretty hard, the turbo can suffer oil starvation(no one wants that) and in due time the turbo might die prematurely due to poor maintainance. but with the S/C you have one less thing to worry about.
06-20-2004 | 07:46 AM
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Depending on what boost the superchager is running at the boost wil be linear.
In otherwords it won't give you big torque down low.
It will make the car much faster as the RPM's increase, which is more like a turbocharger.
That's basically that's all a centi___al (sp) superchargers are, a belt driven turbocharger.
For 55hp, I'd say they are running it around 4-5psi and most likely for warranty reasons. If you really want to push it, you can overdrive the blower alot more and get more out of it. You can prolly upgrade to Vortech's air to water intercooler kit as well.
Votech'ed Focus are making well over 200hp at the wheels with the intecooler and stock bottom end. SVT Focus make aroind 250-260hp with 7-8psi intercooled, so I know you can get more out of the tC kit if you want it.
Pricing is right inline with other forms of forced induction on other cars. The Scion shouldn't be treated any differently.
In otherwords it won't give you big torque down low.
It will make the car much faster as the RPM's increase, which is more like a turbocharger.
That's basically that's all a centi___al (sp) superchargers are, a belt driven turbocharger.
For 55hp, I'd say they are running it around 4-5psi and most likely for warranty reasons. If you really want to push it, you can overdrive the blower alot more and get more out of it. You can prolly upgrade to Vortech's air to water intercooler kit as well.
Votech'ed Focus are making well over 200hp at the wheels with the intecooler and stock bottom end. SVT Focus make aroind 250-260hp with 7-8psi intercooled, so I know you can get more out of the tC kit if you want it.
Pricing is right inline with other forms of forced induction on other cars. The Scion shouldn't be treated any differently.
06-20-2004 | 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by dj4monie
Depending on what boost the superchager is running at the boost wil be linear.
Originally Posted by dj4monie
In otherwords it won't give you big torque down low.
It will make the car much faster as the RPM's increase, which is more like a turbocharger.
That's basically that's all a centi___al (sp) superchargers are, a belt driven turbocharger.
It will make the car much faster as the RPM's increase, which is more like a turbocharger.
That's basically that's all a centi___al (sp) superchargers are, a belt driven turbocharger.
06-29-2004 | 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by birdy
umm a 215hp coupe with as many features as the TC comes with stock is NOT BAD AT ALL for 21k
hell the mazda 3 only comes with 160 and nicely equipped its 20k
and it still beats the RSX also in speed prolly and its cheaper
hell the mazda 3 only comes with 160 and nicely equipped its 20k
and it still beats the RSX also in speed prolly and its cheaper
Good guess... But your wrong. You don't just add 55 hp to the 160 that Toyota/Scion claims... That's how much power the motor is rated at. But by the time it gets to the ground its probably about 130-145, with the 55 hp from the supercharger your at about 180-205, that's just a bit above the RSX-s so yeah. You could hit 230 hp with a smaller supercharger pulley.
But you'd be running more boost so it's dangerous.
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