Should I trade the 07' FM for an 2000 Audi S4?!
02-11-2008, 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Obsoletepunk04
Audi was the originator of AWD rallies. Without them there would be no Subbies or Evo's.
. World leader in motorsports and they could easily have no competition if it wasn't for league limitations.
02-11-2008, 10:34 PM
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I love the boxy Audis, my friend has an Audi 90 and that thing has been through hell and back, and it still goes. Notice that I didn't say strong. It's previous owner, his cousin, trashed it terribly. But it is amazing for what it's been through.
I still say go for it.
I still say go for it.
02-12-2008, 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by CarbonXe
Originally Posted by SePaTc
Originally Posted by landark
I used to have an Audi A6, traded it for my tC. I loved the Audi in the snow. BUT, I hated that after I hit 70k miles I had it in the shop every 2 months and without fail it cost a minimum of $1000 per visit.
After owning the Audi, I am completely off German cars simply because I don't want to spend my life savings repairing a car.
If you are set on getting AWD, might I recommend a Subaru? The current gen Legacy has AWD, turbo, and actually has a bulletproof engine.
My old Audi:
After owning the Audi, I am completely off German cars simply because I don't want to spend my life savings repairing a car.
If you are set on getting AWD, might I recommend a Subaru? The current gen Legacy has AWD, turbo, and actually has a bulletproof engine.
My old Audi:
2. You had an "A" series
Those 2 factors alone pretty much explain the negative attributes u mentioned.
Non wrx/sti suby's are beat. the legacy motor is not bulletproof any more than the 2.7TT would be. Suby's are kinda cheapo too. might as well stick with a scion.
Audi S4 >>>> Scion tc. There is no debate here. Of course its going to cost you more in gas and maintainence....its a LUXURY SEDAN!!! To make up for it, its also got WAY more helpful/usable features (AWD and more power being the keys).
Anyone who would tell you to keep a Scion tc over an S4 doesn't care about you and is just a bit too in love with Scions... Lets not be naive here people.....
Originally Posted by SePaTc
More performance/safety/reliability/quality for less $$$$...sounds good to me.
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02-12-2008, 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by 5speedonly
i would trade my tc for an S4 in a heartbeat, not the b5 tho i want the V8. i LOVE the way that engine revs
02-12-2008, 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by SePaTc
Originally Posted by CarbonXe
Originally Posted by SePaTc
Originally Posted by landark
I used to have an Audi A6, traded it for my tC. I loved the Audi in the snow. BUT, I hated that after I hit 70k miles I had it in the shop every 2 months and without fail it cost a minimum of $1000 per visit.
After owning the Audi, I am completely off German cars simply because I don't want to spend my life savings repairing a car.
If you are set on getting AWD, might I recommend a Subaru? The current gen Legacy has AWD, turbo, and actually has a bulletproof engine.
My old Audi:
After owning the Audi, I am completely off German cars simply because I don't want to spend my life savings repairing a car.
If you are set on getting AWD, might I recommend a Subaru? The current gen Legacy has AWD, turbo, and actually has a bulletproof engine.
My old Audi:
2. You had an "A" series
Those 2 factors alone pretty much explain the negative attributes u mentioned.
Non wrx/sti suby's are beat. the legacy motor is not bulletproof any more than the 2.7TT would be. Suby's are kinda cheapo too. might as well stick with a scion.
Audi S4 >>>> Scion tc. There is no debate here. Of course its going to cost you more in gas and maintainence....its a LUXURY SEDAN!!! To make up for it, its also got WAY more helpful/usable features (AWD and more power being the keys).
Anyone who would tell you to keep a Scion tc over an S4 doesn't care about you and is just a bit too in love with Scions... Lets not be naive here people.....
Originally Posted by SePaTc
More performance/safety/reliability/quality for less $$$$...sounds good to me.
if you don't understand something.... PM me.
02-13-2008, 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by BlckdOutTC
Originally Posted by SePaTc
Originally Posted by CarbonXe
Originally Posted by SePaTc
Originally Posted by landark
I used to have an Audi A6, traded it for my tC. I loved the Audi in the snow. BUT, I hated that after I hit 70k miles I had it in the shop every 2 months and without fail it cost a minimum of $1000 per visit.
After owning the Audi, I am completely off German cars simply because I don't want to spend my life savings repairing a car.
If you are set on getting AWD, might I recommend a Subaru? The current gen Legacy has AWD, turbo, and actually has a bulletproof engine.
My old Audi:
After owning the Audi, I am completely off German cars simply because I don't want to spend my life savings repairing a car.
If you are set on getting AWD, might I recommend a Subaru? The current gen Legacy has AWD, turbo, and actually has a bulletproof engine.
My old Audi:
2. You had an "A" series
Those 2 factors alone pretty much explain the negative attributes u mentioned.
Non wrx/sti suby's are beat. the legacy motor is not bulletproof any more than the 2.7TT would be. Suby's are kinda cheapo too. might as well stick with a scion.
Audi S4 >>>> Scion tc. There is no debate here. Of course its going to cost you more in gas and maintainence....its a LUXURY SEDAN!!! To make up for it, its also got WAY more helpful/usable features (AWD and more power being the keys).
Anyone who would tell you to keep a Scion tc over an S4 doesn't care about you and is just a bit too in love with Scions... Lets not be naive here people.....
Originally Posted by SePaTc
More performance/safety/reliability/quality for less $$$$...sounds good to me.
if you don't understand something.... PM me.
when you replace the turbos, you can also use RS4 turbos and intercoolers and get a nice bump in power.
i really don't know why you're arguing against an awd turbo v6 compared to a crappy tc.... :D
02-13-2008, 01:50 PM
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YOU CAN'T PROVE YOURSELF RIGHT EITHER! moron... your are merely SPECULATING that an S4 will cost more. If you're a dumbass it will. i know at least 2 guys with S4s and NEITHER has had anywhere NEAR the problems and expenses that i've had with my car.
PLUS, with a tc, you have to pay out the butt to come anywhere close to matching the performance of an S4
PLUS, say theres a big snowstorm and you crash your dinky tc because it sucks in the snow.... then you're out for your deductible, plus rental car and whatever other expense u might occur.
while with a awd car, you probably could have avoided the wreck.
See genius?? Its not that hard to SPECULATE. He said the payments were less than he's paying for the tc. In the end, it probably all works out to be about the same, give or take $100 or so.......
the point is, he wants awd because he lives in WISCONSIN... Not NEW JERSEY.
"My buddy just got an A4 quattro and with the 20in of snow we just got last week it was quite nice to go through it rather than plow it with my lowered TC."
"my payments would be $40 cheaper and a whole year less of a loan."
There. You're wrong. happy?
PLUS, with a tc, you have to pay out the butt to come anywhere close to matching the performance of an S4
PLUS, say theres a big snowstorm and you crash your dinky tc because it sucks in the snow.... then you're out for your deductible, plus rental car and whatever other expense u might occur.
while with a awd car, you probably could have avoided the wreck.
See genius?? Its not that hard to SPECULATE. He said the payments were less than he's paying for the tc. In the end, it probably all works out to be about the same, give or take $100 or so.......
the point is, he wants awd because he lives in WISCONSIN... Not NEW JERSEY.
"My buddy just got an A4 quattro and with the 20in of snow we just got last week it was quite nice to go through it rather than plow it with my lowered TC."
"my payments would be $40 cheaper and a whole year less of a loan."
There. You're wrong. happy?
02-13-2008, 01:57 PM
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Insurance will be more.
Gas milage will be worse.
The S4 can't run on 87 octane.
Maintenance of an Audi S class with 0 problems costs more money than a tC under warranty.
I'm still waiting for you to prove me wrong.
And if you read the thread, I suggested getting something like a 4Runner. Clearly you didn't read the thread though, because you're too busy trying to troll.
Gas milage will be worse.
The S4 can't run on 87 octane.
Maintenance of an Audi S class with 0 problems costs more money than a tC under warranty.
I'm still waiting for you to prove me wrong.
And if you read the thread, I suggested getting something like a 4Runner. Clearly you didn't read the thread though, because you're too busy trying to troll.
02-13-2008, 02:10 PM
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Difference in gas milage alone = cost of monthly payment difference.
At a low 200 miles a week, which is only 10k miles a year, the difference is approx $34 per month.
Gas for tC
(27mpg/200miles)($2.75/gal) = (20.37(52))/12 = $88.27/month
Gas for the S4
(20mpg/200)($3.05/gal) = (30.50(52))/12 = $132.16/month
And I'm giving the S4 a high average gas milage, it was rated with the old system @ 15 city, 22 hwy.
At a low 200 miles a week, which is only 10k miles a year, the difference is approx $34 per month.
Gas for tC
(27mpg/200miles)($2.75/gal) = (20.37(52))/12 = $88.27/month
Gas for the S4
(20mpg/200)($3.05/gal) = (30.50(52))/12 = $132.16/month
And I'm giving the S4 a high average gas milage, it was rated with the old system @ 15 city, 22 hwy.
02-13-2008, 02:32 PM
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Insurance price difference for a 22 year old, single male home owner, living in Dalton Wi (random town), with zero accidents and zero violations on his driving record.
$149/mo for the S4.
$130/mo for the tC.
$149/mo for the S4.
$130/mo for the tC.