crunchytc

Well yesterday driving to work in bev hills on sunset streets a yellow lights turned red and i did not make it. I got flashed by those red light cameras! Theres no way i would have slowed down in time and i would have probably been hit by the car behind me. So as i wat for the ticket in the mail has anyone fought this in court? any success or suggestions? cuase i dont think this thing is fair, ive heard that they purposly put these things in places that would make money! anyway any input would be great. thx

OldYeller

I have heard that a lot of these get challenged and thrown out. Private companys set them up for municipalitys and they all share the cut. It might depend on where you were when the light changed. There is always traffic school.

crunchytc

it hasnt been 18 months since my last ticket.... and by thrown out do you mean, charges are droped? what kinda argument should i make?

2fast4you

There's nothing you can do until a ticket arrives in the mail.... which means one may not arrive. I've been caught by them a few times driving through West Hollywood and never got a ticket. Red light cameras are like a new toy: cities play with them for awhile, but when they break, they basically ignore them.

If you do get a ticket in the mail, they are very difficult to get thrown out, they get your front and rear plates and your face. Unless you wear a gorilla mask while you drive, there's basically nothing you can do but pay the fine or do traffic school.

OldYeller

The tickets will get thrown out if it can be proven that there is something wrong with the camera etc. Somewhere over here in the IE a bunch were thrown out when a challenge was made. I will try to do some research.............

OldYeller

Here's a good one. Look at the bottom of the article. It is about a product you spray on your plate so it can't be read by the camera....


http://www.dailybulletin.com/search/ci_3043241


Sorry--can not find the old article I read about them throwing the tickets out.

TongMan

you should search for my thread...i had just ordered a can of photoblocker to prevent cases like this from happening.

PrivateTucker

wow, traffic cameras suck.
None here yet *knocks ferociously on wooden desk*

So that photoblocker stuff really works, eh?

matt_a

If they calibrate the traffic cams correctly, there's not much chance of arguing your way out of it. I have a friend who's a state trooper and he explained the whole, "I had to run the yellow...I wouldn't have had a chance to stop." thing to me. He said that the lights are set so that the yellow stays on long enough for you to stop or prcoceed on through as long as you were going the speed limit. If you couldn't have stopped without skidding into the intersection, it means that you were speeding when you approached the light. Bottom line....if they want to be pr*cks, they have you.

engifineer

Yep, there is not really any way out of the yellow light thing 99.9% of the time. Those cameras must suck, we dont have any yet that I know of. But a post below has got me wanting to come out there and drive around in a gorilla mask with some spray on the plates

justmyluck

crunchytc thats gotta suck... I have no real advice for you becuz it is kinda cut and dry. Like matt_a said aout his state trooper friend... if you couldn't stop you were speeding and I also know that they have enough delay that you can make it through those things have got to suck. My town "Vero Beach Florida" just recently put in about 5 or 6 of those on the most heavily ran intersections and luckily I have not set one of them off yet. What I say is you must pay to play. Everytime I do a WOT run I know there could be a PoPo anywhere but I realize what I am doing and admit to my mistakes so me personally I would just pay the thing off.

EnderSavesTheDay

1. drive cautiously when approaching a 'stale' green light

... well.. ermm... that's all I gotta say? Most the lights are based off weight censors... if you see no one ahead... and lots of people to the left and right, you're most likely going to hit a yellow. On another note, do yourself a favor and let off the gas and not speed towards a red then stop... it's plain and simple, you just save more gas that way... I see way too many (shall we say) 'ambitious' tC drivers on the road (I personally call them douche bags), swerving through the lanes, speeding...cutting me off... only to hit a red light. Speeding: you save a couple seconds (at most), put others and yourself in danger, waste gas, wear breaks.

BigV

follow this link,
should help

http://www.ticketassassin.com/fight.html

trialsindude

I call BS on that one, tickets here in baltimore usually get thrown out BECAUSE the yellow suppose to be on for 5 second but it usually stay on for less than that causing the redlight camera to get people. A news station did a report on it and they found out about the short yellow light situation.

Anyways for those that are in baltimore heres a list of redlight camera intersections: courtesy of a friend:

RED LIGHT CAMERA LOCATIONS


The Phase II cameras are digital. They will send you a ticket with a
picture but you will also be given an ID number where you can go online
and watch yourself running the red light. They look like glass bubbles
and will not flash as you go through the light. There was an article in
the Sun paper.

Just be careful.....

PHASE I LOCATIONS

Northern Parkway & Falls Rd.
Northern Parkway & York Rd.
Reisterstown Road & Patterson Ave.
Eastern Avenue & Kane St.
Edmonson Avenue & Hilton St.
Edmonson Avenue & Cooks La.
Franklin Street & Pulaski St.
Orleans Street & ___ St.
President Street & Fayette St.
Russell Street NB & Hamburg St.
Russell Street SB & Hamburg St.
Light Street & Pratt Street
Pulaski Highway & Monument St.
MLK Jr. Blvd. & Washington Blvd.
Franklin Street & Franklintown Rd.
Hillen Road & Argonne Dr.
North Avenue & Howard Str.
Patapsco Avenue! & 4 th St.
Lombard Street & ___ St.
Reisterstown Road SB & Fallstaff Rd.
Hanover Street & Cromwell St.
Park Heights Avenue NB & Hayward Ave.
Park Heights Avenue SB & Hayward Ave.
Harford Road & North Ave.
MLK Jr. Blvd. & Pratt St.
Northern Parkway EB & Greenspring Aven.
Northern Parkway WB & Greenspring Ave.
Reisterstown Road & Menlo Dr.
Edmonson Ave. & Athol Ave./Woodridge EB Edmonson Avenue & Athol Ave.
Frederick Avenue & Catherine St.
Park Heights Avenue & Violet Ave.
Sinclair Lane & Moravia Rd.
Russell Street & Bayard St.
Wilkens Avenue & Desoto La.
Pratt Street & Howard St.
Northern Parkway & Waverly Way
Cold Spring Lane & Hillen Rd.
Liberty Heights Avenue & Dukeland St.
Hanover Street & Reedbird Ave.
Ft. Smallwood Road & Ft. Armistead Rd.
Wabash Avenue & Garrison Blvd.
Walther Avenue & Glenmore Ave.
Franklin Street & Cathedral St.
Perring Parkway & Belvedere Ave.
Cold Spring Lane & Roland Ave.
Cold Spring Lane & Loch Raven Blvd.

PHASE II LOCATIONS

Caton Avenue NB & Benson Ave.
Caton Avenue SB & Benson Ave.
Reisterstown Road & Druid Park Dr.
Wilkens Avenue & Pine Heights Ave.
East 33rd Street EB & The Alameda
The Alameda SB & East 33rd St.
York Road & Gittings Ave.
Potee Street & Talbot St.
Gwynns Falls Pkwy & Garrison Blvd.
Charles Street & Lake Ave.
Wabash Avenue & Belvedere Ave.
Harford Road & Walther Blvd.
Orleans Street & Linwood Ave.
Erdman Avenue EB & Macon St.
Erdman Avenue WB & Macon St.
Macon Street NB & Erdman Ave.

DTRUONG_112

wow, hate cameras nowadays.

maximus96

I used the methods in ticketassassin to fight my wife's case and won. give it a try, you've got nothing to lose.

matt_a

Did you read the very first sentence? V

Ranthese

traffic cameras??? i thought you were talking about *****. the thread topic is misleading. @@

06tCguy

basically, if you saw it go red, you were at fault. if you were under the light, you might have a case, but that's really close. if you have proof the person behind you was following closely, you might have a case...hopefully they're somehow in the frame with your car.

BuddhasTC

You cannot get it thrown out and you will lose if you fight it! When the cameras first came out, it was easy to fight and win. But now they check with Dept of Transportation and ask for the records of the cameras and get a second set of evidence. So your only chance is that it doesn't come in the mail.