racelands are nice and pretty stiff. Im affraid that pushing them so hard so often as i do that I may strip the threads on the adjusters and really be screwed. i mean thats alot of pressure and wieght to hold on those rings. it was alot more soft and less bouncy when i first bought them. But this is expected. After they settled they are really starting to come along. I take turns like im Fernando Alonso in his new ferrari next year lol..

I guess we'll see what happens in the end. Saturday is a auto X event that im not sure if i want to attend just becuase i feel like these might give me a major problem and im saying this becuase of the price.. not becuase of the buid or quality. But I have to test these to give a final verdict anyways.

 

yeah i know what u mean, i never wanna use those for any type of aggresiveness the way u do, u really take advantage of them and put them to use though. i jus want them for looks

 

You're going to need to milk the living ____ out of that S/C to get it to 240. And by milk the living ____ out of it, I mean full exhaust, header, 12psi puller, fuel management, tuning...the works.

 

koni yellow shocks and ground control coilovers are a really nice combo to work with. inexpensive and they work better than full coilovers.

 

I've never seen them on the tC, but I know a lot of S2K guys run that set up.

 

idk? arent they coilover sleeves?

edit:

wouldnt ACTUAL coikovers be better then coilover sleeves?

 

im not a big fan of sleeves id rather get the real deal. JIC are way up there on price.. leaving the buddy clubs still a possibility , no one has experience with the progress COs in auto X?

 

yes they are sleeves. There really is no difference. It is the same concept as a full coilover just two pieces. It handles perfectly and you can order whatever spring rates and spring lengths that you want with the coilover springs. Talk to some autocross people and ask about the combo. It outperforms many full coilover setups and the koni shocks can be revalved in the us whereas foreign coilovers cannot(ie. tein etc.). Just my opinion.


if your interested

http://www.ground-control-store.com/...p/II=691/CA=18

 

I'm just on stock shocks and TRD springs. Not many people bother with coilovers for AutoX.

 

thing about sleeves is they are bouncy as hell - me no like bouncy

 

explain.

 

In my opinion the JICs are completely out of the realm of what it sounds like you're looking for if you're aiming to be an auto-crosser. Not knocking on the JICs, but they're probably too much coilover for the relatively simple work you'd be throwing at it. You seem to have a pretty good layout of items that you're aiming at and you're certainly on the right track with getting rid of the current "suspension" that you're using now.



I'd also recommend looking at the KW Variant 2 as well as the Tein SS-P. I personally run the KW V2s on my car and Auto-x as well as HPD track race my car. I don't have much first hand information about the Tein SS-P setup, but they are considered on-par performance/adjustability wise with the KWs. When I did my research on the two different setups I came across the following two points.

1. Lots of people run the Teins, they're very popular and have a lot of knowledge around them if something goes wrong
2. Every time I bring them up to my track buddies, they groan and suggest a different brand.

(Take point #2 as second hand information only and it use it strictly anecdotally. This is NOT fact, it's opinon from people who have tracked them before)

Regarding the supercharger. I think it's a great call. $700 to get up around 200hp is perfect and a great bang for the buck. Even if it fails you won't have sunk too much into it and still got the benefit out of it. Some people will say it's a gauranteed failure and others will point to their units that have been running strong for years. (I think Draxcaliber has had one for a long time and has auto-x'd his a lot, might want to PM him and ask about his setup)

Perhaps 240hp is hard to get to (I'm not actually sure as I've only done minimal research on the actual power gains from the unit) but even if it puts you at 200-220, that's MORE than enough for the tC in the auto-cross situation that you've been talking about.

Honestly, if I look objectively at the goals you asked for:

"my goals:

make the car handle like a dream
add a few HP's
make the car lighter

call it a day "



The parts you listed sound like the best choice for those goals. If you're asking opinons on the subject I'd recommend the following to get the biggest bang for short money and still meet your goals.

• go with the Progress suspension for the $1,000 you quoted
• go with the TRD supercharger for the $700 you quoted
• End cost = $1,700
• End power = ~210hp (not sure if you have other supporting modifications, but that should be close)

If you went with the turbo that someone else was talking about (the used one) and the super expensive over-kill coilovers you'd be looking at the following:

• Too much coilover - $2,000
• Too much power for your situtaion - $1800
• End cost = $3,800
• End power = ~270hp (Low estimate for the sake of discussion more than pinpoint accuracy)

The point I'm aiming to make is this: If you go with the bigger "better" parts, you're looking at a price delta of $2,100 from the parts you have listed. You can buy a LOT of parts and a LOT of race time with $2,100. Your goals seem clear, your part choices are legitimate. Stick to what you've got planned and you'll have the car YOU wanted.

 

Damn, so many posts in the amount of time it took me to write mine..../sigh, I'm slow.

Regarding the Progress COs...the PTuning time attack car ran a Progress setup for the first year or two that they ran the car. Might actually still be on it. Might want to give the shop a call and ask them about the setup.

 

They're still on Progress.

 

holy macro! thank you for all the info ;)

 

Thanks dude, couldn't remember for sure.

 

you brought up all the points i have been on about in my head laltey... simple vs overkill.. thank you for your reply!

 

were did you get your KW Variant 2s at? link if possible id like to read on them. how long have you had them? how long have you been using them for auto x?

 

No worries man, anytime.

Everyone in the thread so far has been pretty helpful and straightforward, you should thank the other guys for their inputs about the other end of the spectrum too.

Glad we could lend some of our knowledge and help out.

 

I'd like to know how sleeve coilovers cause bouncing?