Dan Gardner Custom Sway Bar is now available thru Dezod Motorsports
04-08-2010, 11:24 PM
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And paid in full.
I guess I'm number 39 then. Would've been nice to be number 40 just to say I had one of the last ten ever made... lol. But oh well, I couldn't resist!
Btw, are the coilovers gonna be a limited run too? Any idea on how many are being made available, price, etc.?
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04-09-2010, 08:47 PM
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04-09-2010, 09:10 PM
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04-09-2010, 09:14 PM
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With most autosports bodies not allowing systems you could possibly adjust while in motion at events, I didnt really expect EDFC to be a priority since I assume you are heavily tailoring towards people that will track and/or autox them.
With my Teins, with the above in mind, I just cut access holes out for the rear damper adjustments. Its not like it really stands out back there. And up front you can just reach under the cowl and adjust them.
But if Progress does not offer adjustment on the dampers, then the EDFC would be out anyways.
With my Teins, with the above in mind, I just cut access holes out for the rear damper adjustments. Its not like it really stands out back there. And up front you can just reach under the cowl and adjust them.
But if Progress does not offer adjustment on the dampers, then the EDFC would be out anyways.
04-09-2010, 10:02 PM
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Adjustment is great to have at the top level. For 95% of users, sometimes not having the adjustability is better than the alternative. In suspension and chassis/car setup...a little knowledge can indeed be more dangerous than none at all. Even with real racers, wheel to wheel racing...I can count on one hand (say at a NASA event) how many guys have any real substantive idea what they're doing with the *****. Ride height, spring selection, valving, corner balancing, alignment and tire pressures are more than enough to keep even the seasoned club racer busy. =)
04-10-2010, 05:26 AM
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so Dan if i understood you correctly there will be no stiffer/softer adjustment with these new coilovers but rather they will be on the stiff side as they are directed towards racing type of coilovers ?
i just started to learn about coilovers and their technicality so excuse me for my noob questions
Dave so how often do you adjust your dampnening or have you ever adjusted it other then initial set up to your liking ?
i just started to learn about coilovers and their technicality so excuse me for my noob questions
Dave so how often do you adjust your dampnening or have you ever adjusted it other then initial set up to your liking ?
04-10-2010, 08:01 AM
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Good question. Actually, we intend to offer the COs in two "flavors," and will produce a valving and spring package that will work for two different levels/desires of performance. One will bias street/autoX, and the other will be more full-track oriented. The choice will then be up to you guys based on your use. We can also always revalve (for a fee) should you wish to change your setup.
04-10-2010, 04:08 PM
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I completely agree that too much adjustment can be very bad for 99% of drivers (myself included!). Think of a sound system that just has WAY too many adjustments on it. Most people can never get it to sound right 
I like the single adjustable nature of my ss-p's, because it limits that problem As far as how I adjust them, I do so before and after each autox event. But, you will find that you make big changes, not small. So the difference in 3 clicks from full stiff and 2 clicks is pretty much lost in the noise of other variables. Especially on Teins and other Japanese setups. While I like mine, they are not as precise and consistent as something like a Koni, so one click may equal a slightly different value from one unit to the next.
I like running them about half stiff or so on the street just to make them a bit more livable. For autox it is full stiff in the rear and about 5-6 clicks down from full stiff in the front. This gives me a bit more transition and helps with the corner exit traction. But like I said, the changes are either full one way or 1/3 of full or so to make a difference. Getting hung up on trying to make tiny changes really means nothing unless you are the best driver around and are truly maxing out your skill and the car.
But while having that adjustment is nice, I could live just fine with a non-adjustable setup if the valving was right. And most good damper manufacturers offer the service of custom valving.
But, I am getting a bit off topic from this thread, so I will stop there
The Progress units will be very good quality and with the input on valving they will be well set up I am sure.
I like the single adjustable nature of my ss-p's, because it limits that problem
As far as how I adjust them, I do so before and after each autox event. But, you will find that you make big changes, not small. So the difference in 3 clicks from full stiff and 2 clicks is pretty much lost in the noise of other variables. Especially on Teins and other Japanese setups. While I like mine, they are not as precise and consistent as something like a Koni, so one click may equal a slightly different value from one unit to the next. I like running them about half stiff or so on the street just to make them a bit more livable. For autox it is full stiff in the rear and about 5-6 clicks down from full stiff in the front. This gives me a bit more transition and helps with the corner exit traction. But like I said, the changes are either full one way or 1/3 of full or so to make a difference. Getting hung up on trying to make tiny changes really means nothing unless you are the best driver around and are truly maxing out your skill and the car.
But while having that adjustment is nice, I could live just fine with a non-adjustable setup if the valving was right. And most good damper manufacturers offer the service of custom valving.
But, I am getting a bit off topic from this thread, so I will stop there
The Progress units will be very good quality and with the input on valving they will be well set up I am sure.
