Dan Gardner Custom Sway Bar is now available thru Dezod Motorsports
06-19-2010, 07:02 PM
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Love it even more after our test n tune and this last event. I am certainly competing at a higher level this season (Starting to inch up further on the 89-91 si hatch guys which is not an easy thing to compete against!). While some of that is just seat time and learning the car, the bar has made a big difference.
I the last event, we had a "toilet bowl" .. aka a big pavement circle that was part of the course. I could hit it hard and then tune out the oversteer rather than fighting the understeer that is typical. Very nice thing to deal with on a FWD car. For autox, I recommend running it full stiff and then adjusting your driving style to match. Ran 2nd most of the day until the 2nd driver of the si hatch eeked past me late in the day to put me in 2nd. Managed to beat the co-driven Imprezza 2.5 RS (also a huge contender in ST these days) by 0.6 seconds and 1.3 seconds respectively. Should have been by a larger margin, but I pushed a little hard on what felt like my fastest run by far and went sideways through some cones
PAX'd 42nd out of 143 cars. In raw times I was 53rd out of 143 cars.
And.. while this is obviously all due to a driver unsure in the car and new to autox, I can say after this event that I beat a 2001 Ferrari 360
Quick vid of one of my runs. Great course for having more rear sway bar. Video quality got kind of crappy on the upload
http://picasaweb.google.com/engifine...36456996122914
I the last event, we had a "toilet bowl" .. aka a big pavement circle that was part of the course. I could hit it hard and then tune out the oversteer rather than fighting the understeer that is typical. Very nice thing to deal with on a FWD car. For autox, I recommend running it full stiff and then adjusting your driving style to match. Ran 2nd most of the day until the 2nd driver of the si hatch eeked past me late in the day to put me in 2nd. Managed to beat the co-driven Imprezza 2.5 RS (also a huge contender in ST these days) by 0.6 seconds and 1.3 seconds respectively. Should have been by a larger margin, but I pushed a little hard on what felt like my fastest run by far and went sideways through some cones
PAX'd 42nd out of 143 cars. In raw times I was 53rd out of 143 cars.
And.. while this is obviously all due to a driver unsure in the car and new to autox, I can say after this event that I beat a 2001 Ferrari 360
Quick vid of one of my runs. Great course for having more rear sway bar. Video quality got kind of crappy on the upload
http://picasaweb.google.com/engifine...36456996122914
06-19-2010, 07:52 PM
#582
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I dont think i have ever seen a driver that twitchy with the wheel!! Smooth is fast bro...
Love it even more after our test n tune and this last event. I am certainly competing at a higher level this season (Starting to inch up further on the 89-91 si hatch guys which is not an easy thing to compete against!). While some of that is just seat time and learning the car, the bar has made a big difference.
I the last event, we had a "toilet bowl" .. aka a big pavement circle that was part of the course. I could hit it hard and then tune out the oversteer rather than fighting the understeer that is typical. Very nice thing to deal with on a FWD car. For autox, I recommend running it full stiff and then adjusting your driving style to match. Ran 2nd most of the day until the 2nd driver of the si hatch eeked past me late in the day to put me in 2nd. Managed to beat the co-driven Imprezza 2.5 RS (also a huge contender in ST these days) by 0.6 seconds and 1.3 seconds respectively. Should have been by a larger margin, but I pushed a little hard on what felt like my fastest run by far and went sideways through some cones
PAX'd 42nd out of 143 cars. In raw times I was 53rd out of 143 cars.
And.. while this is obviously all due to a driver unsure in the car and new to autox, I can say after this event that I beat a 2001 Ferrari 360
Quick vid of one of my runs. Great course for having more rear sway bar. Video quality got kind of crappy on the upload
http://picasaweb.google.com/engifine...36456996122914
I the last event, we had a "toilet bowl" .. aka a big pavement circle that was part of the course. I could hit it hard and then tune out the oversteer rather than fighting the understeer that is typical. Very nice thing to deal with on a FWD car. For autox, I recommend running it full stiff and then adjusting your driving style to match. Ran 2nd most of the day until the 2nd driver of the si hatch eeked past me late in the day to put me in 2nd. Managed to beat the co-driven Imprezza 2.5 RS (also a huge contender in ST these days) by 0.6 seconds and 1.3 seconds respectively. Should have been by a larger margin, but I pushed a little hard on what felt like my fastest run by far and went sideways through some cones
PAX'd 42nd out of 143 cars. In raw times I was 53rd out of 143 cars.
And.. while this is obviously all due to a driver unsure in the car and new to autox, I can say after this event that I beat a 2001 Ferrari 360
Quick vid of one of my runs. Great course for having more rear sway bar. Video quality got kind of crappy on the upload
http://picasaweb.google.com/engifine...36456996122914
06-20-2010, 12:48 AM
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People that talk that way on the forums tend to be those that have never done it before (obvious by his post) My driving was fine there, hence my results in the class I have to compete with. What you didnt see was the the fact that I was right on the edge between oversteer and balanced most of the time in the sweepers, which is why I was correcting where I was a tiny bit. You have no idea what the rear of the car was doing, or was on the edge of doing, by looking at the vids.
Feel free to come to any event here in the twin cities if you live nearby and show me how its done.. ;)
My driving was fine there, hence my results in the class I have to compete with. What you didnt see was the the fact that I was right on the edge between oversteer and balanced most of the time in the sweepers, which is why I was correcting where I was a tiny bit. You have no idea what the rear of the car was doing, or was on the edge of doing, by looking at the vids. Feel free to come to any event here in the twin cities if you live nearby and show me how its done.. ;)
06-20-2010, 12:50 AM
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And getting a FWD like ours into a pin corner is best achieved with a late throttle lift, early turn in, especially when aggressively driving the course. But again, he would know that if he had experience really pushing the car to its limits.
06-21-2010, 03:28 PM
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I couldn't seem to make it fit on the softest setting on my car, it would hit the control arm, so I put it on medium and <3 it. Wasnt that hard to get adjusted to having it on the car. I dont think Im gonna get $1300 saved up in time to get the matching springs
06-21-2010, 04:03 PM
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Run it full stiff for autox and adjust your driving style as needed. I run lots of negative camber (-2.75) and toe up front for events, plus the bar on full stiff. Does an excellent job. You wont be dissapointed.
06-22-2010, 04:05 AM
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How did you adjust the endlinks when full stiff? I've heard you want the arms of the bar running to the rear as parallel as possible to the ground, without hitting/rubbing the upper arm.
06-25-2010, 02:40 PM
#593
I still have not found the time to install mine. 
No garage + too much work travel + busy summer = me fail.
And I'm leaving for 2 weeks in Salt Lake City on 7/5. If I can't get this thing installed in the near future, it might have to hit the Classifieds.
MAYBE I can try to get it installed tomorrow - that would be nice considering we have an autox on Sunday.
No garage + too much work travel + busy summer = me fail.
And I'm leaving for 2 weeks in Salt Lake City on 7/5. If I can't get this thing installed in the near future, it might have to hit the Classifieds.
MAYBE I can try to get it installed tomorrow - that would be nice considering we have an autox on Sunday.
06-25-2010, 10:32 PM
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I still have not found the time to install mine.
No garage + too much work travel + busy summer = me fail.
And I'm leaving for 2 weeks in Salt Lake City on 7/5. If I can't get this thing installed in the near future, it might have to hit the Classifieds.
MAYBE I can try to get it installed tomorrow - that would be nice considering we have an autox on Sunday.
No garage + too much work travel + busy summer = me fail.
And I'm leaving for 2 weeks in Salt Lake City on 7/5. If I can't get this thing installed in the near future, it might have to hit the Classifieds.
MAYBE I can try to get it installed tomorrow - that would be nice considering we have an autox on Sunday.
06-25-2010, 10:51 PM
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