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Old 02-20-2005 | 10:05 PM
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If you put the Hotchkis front bar and TRD rear bar on the tC it will corner flatter than stock, but it will tend to understeer. Ideally, you want the car neutral, or even a little towards oversteer since the forward weight bias makes the car tend to understeer regardless of suspension setup.
but our cars have lift throttle oversteer, even bone stock. if tuned completely neutral it would be even easier to kick the tail out by lifting. so to tune it for slight oversteer sounds dangerous for street driving as you never know when you need to slow down/brake unexpectedly for whatever reason.
Old 02-21-2005 | 04:27 PM
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If you put the Hotchkis front bar and TRD rear bar on the tC it will corner flatter than stock, but it will tend to understeer. Ideally, you want the car neutral, or even a little towards oversteer since the forward weight bias makes the car tend to understeer regardless of suspension setup.
but our cars have lift throttle oversteer, even bone stock. if tuned completely neutral it would be even easier to kick the tail out by lifting. so to tune it for slight oversteer sounds dangerous for street driving as you never know when you need to slow down/brake unexpectedly for whatever reason.
It's one thing to say "You can induce lift throttle oversteer" (which I was able to do in my '85 Cavalier station wagon) and another thing to say "The car suffers from lift throttle oversteer", meaning it's something you can't avoid, like an older Porsche 911 (newer Porsches have had all the oversteer problems dialed out of the suspension setups.)

Your comment explains why cars are primarily set up for understeer, it's safer. I don't really understand why you would put a TRD rear sway bar on your car if you feel that way, though.
Old 02-22-2005 | 11:56 PM
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but our cars have lift throttle oversteer, even bone stock. if tuned completely neutral it would be even easier to kick the tail out by lifting. so to tune it for slight oversteer sounds dangerous for street driving as you never know when you need to slow down/brake unexpectedly for whatever reason.
It's one thing to say "You can induce lift throttle oversteer" (which I was able to do in my '85 Cavalier station wagon) and another thing to say "The car suffers from lift throttle oversteer", meaning it's something you can't avoid, like an older Porsche 911 (newer Porsches have had all the oversteer problems dialed out of the suspension setups.)

Your comment explains why cars are primarily set up for understeer, it's safer. I don't really understand why you would put a TRD rear sway bar on your car if you feel that way, though.
I was used to my 85 civic hb dx. It was very hard to get that car to go neutral since it had no rear sway bar. the trd bar on street should be good enough for me.
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