Aren't BC coils the same as KSport or Megan and made in the same factory? I read an article on nasioc about that where a Suby vendor told everyone. But that aside, I have heard good things about them performance wise.

 

^^Not too sure about that but Megan puts out some good products. Not TOP NOTCH but pretty good.

I was considering Racelands, but I'd prefer not to go from H&R to "disposable" coilovers hahaha. Plus, I like my car to handle well and have a nice stance. Not the SLAMMED look. Just close the wheel gaps up. I know it's not the best setup for the best handling but I don't auto-x. I drive spiritedly every now and then so I don't want something breaking on me when I'm taking a corner. Which is why I'm staying away from Racelands.

 

 

that does make any sense. the handling of the car is so much better than of a car with coilovers. I do not know why some people think its just for show.

 

go the vogtland way

 

Any evidence? so why don't the majority of race companies run bags? Sure they are smooth, but can't offer what quality coils can offer.

 

Quote from Air Ride Technologies

We’ve had some people question why they would want an air suspension when they can tune a conventional suspension to achieve the same results for less money. We agree that a good suspension tuner can eventually select the proper combination of components to dial in nearly any car for nearly any type of performance. The big difference with air suspension is the fact that you can achieve these results much quicker. Most people run out of time and patience before trying enough combinations to optimize their vehicles.

With an air suspension and adjustable shocks suspension, tuning is accomplished by pushing buttons to change air pressure and twisting a dial on the shocks to change shock valving. Results are achieved in seconds or minutes instead of hours or days. This means that you can drive your vehicle to the autocross with a nice compliant ride quality and by spending a few minutes adjusting air pressure and shock valving optimize its performance on the track. When its time to drive home after a long hot day of racing, just return to your highway settings and go home in comfort. This may not mean much to the trailered race cars but it is much more significant to the other 90% of us who drive to the track.

What WILL mean something to the actual race cars is the ability to easily tune your vehicle to various [and changing] track conditions. Experienced drag racers know that when the sun goes down they can start over trying to optimize their rear suspension for traction.

Experienced road racers know that their tires can change dramatically after a few heat cycles. In either case there may not be time to accomplish a lot of component changing to re-tune the vehicle. The benefits of an air suspension are obvious in these cases.

 

how is that proof? that is from a company that sells it, most will say anything to try to sell their product.

 

^^true story and a valid point. obviously the company selling it is going to make up crap to make money. im also not about to drop over 2 grand for airbags. i dont want to be that low. i want a nice stance, with good handling.

 

Obviously the company would not be in business if they were making lies. I work as a sales rep and sell both of the top 2 air suspension companies products. I did my research and figured for the price I would pay, Id rather have a suspension that was fully adjustable on the fly. Don't get me wrong coilover set ups are great, but you cannot adjust your ride height with the push of the button when your getting ready to go down the track. It has adjustable shock valving just like coil over set ups do. Granted you do get less body roll then a vehicle equipped with a coil over suspension. I would have purchased a coil over kit, but for the price I paid I could not refuse to make my purchase. I paid only $1000 for my air suspension which is right around the same price I would have paid for KW Coilovers. I did not pay $2000-$3000 dollars for it, I would have not purchased if it was that price. I am 100% satisfied with it. Many of you may not agree with air suspension but that is just because you think it is just for show and that you think it is not an improvement to the suspension. You really cannot say much until you actually drove a car like mine. Don't go by what you think.

 

what are you talking about, companies lie all the time saying their product is better than another when it truly isnt. Let me ask you this, did you get that kit for $1000 without a discount for being a sales rep? probably not considering the link you provided costs 3k, so where is the benefit for him. So he will save some time if he needs to adjust them for the track, but is that worth 2k more, i think not. Also he said he just wants a decent setup for the street, he said he doesnt go to the track.

 

I got it as a prototype. I had one of the first three kits ever built before they released it to the public, I would of not been able to get it at that price even with an employee discount. It is designed for on the street or on the track, I am just stating that it has the same type of adjustabilty as a coil over suspension. All I am saying is that it is a good investment and not a piece of garbage like some people think.

 

I really wish my thread didn't turn into a debate, so let's end this little discussion now.


Does anyone have anymore info on the TRD Coilovers? I couldn't find anything on TRD's website, and there isn't much info on TRDSparks either.

 

they are good quality 08tc has them and so does scionjon. They go pretty damn low too. However to me they are extremely over priced for a coilover that doesnt come with top hats, camber plates or dampening adjustments

 

The TRD's I believe are rebadged progress coils. I read that somewhere at least.

 

yea they have a very similar design

 

They aren't a bad price considering they're a Toyota product. I was considering those however I'd like to see a review of those BC's. How about JIC's?

 

here is a massive thread on nasioc

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=1085379

http://forums.evolutionm.net/evo-tir...ck-review.html

JIC i heard were good but they are really stiff

 

Seem's like those BC's are pretty decent for the price.

 

im going to give them a shot this summer. Hopefully they will do well, from what i have seen they have great customer service. I emailed them a few times and they got back to me fast with answers.