Question for those with dropped tC's
#1
Question for those with dropped tC's
I was thinking about dropping my tC but was worried about how the drive would be afterwords. I want to keep the ride as smooth as it is currently or better. My question is how is the ride comfort after you have dropped the tC? Which springs did you use? Also if you have pics of your car please post! Thanks guys
#4
well, mine's bouncy as hell on rough roads and wasn't half as bouncy as it was stock - I have to admit though, these roads out here in the boonies aren't the most friendly, lots of traffic and lots of repairs - I have the TRD shocks, springs and rear sway bar combo that I got on sale in Nov. for $480 and have the sway set on "race"
I'd like to get a better set of springs, the drop is great for me, looks great and it's never rubbed or hit, even over some massive speed bumps and I drive my car pretty rough. It's still the best mod I've ever done to my car... period. I take turns with 0 body roll, the back end is SO tight it's like night and day from stock.
I attempted some high speed runs on straightaways on the stock suspension setup and it was too scary past 85, the car just didn't like even minor adjustments at those speeds, after the suspension setup I'm still trying to hit the limiter and be safe about it.... got it up to 120 before I ran out of room, the car pulls incredibly from 70-110 probably because it's at the sweet spot in torque and slows down from 110 to 120+. BTW these were done on closed roads, please don't be stupid and do something like that on the streets, it would suck to get killed, but it would suck even more to kill somebody else... just remember how the stories end, the driver usually lives.
All in all, I'd get the TRD setup, the shocks and sway are great, any stiffer in the sway and you're asking for too much oversteer from what I can tell when I went autocrossing, and get a set of progressive rate springs when you have a lot of options to chose from in the future www.trdsparks.com has the combo for $500 - jump on it quick, the shocks retail for $525 alone.
Oh, and you're specifically wanting to have the ride as smooth as it is now or better really can't happen with just a spring and shock upgrade, you have to give something up and it's usually how bouncy it is. You could go for a custom modifyable coilover setup, but that'll cost almost a grand... too rich for my blood.
I'd like to get a better set of springs, the drop is great for me, looks great and it's never rubbed or hit, even over some massive speed bumps and I drive my car pretty rough. It's still the best mod I've ever done to my car... period. I take turns with 0 body roll, the back end is SO tight it's like night and day from stock.
I attempted some high speed runs on straightaways on the stock suspension setup and it was too scary past 85, the car just didn't like even minor adjustments at those speeds, after the suspension setup I'm still trying to hit the limiter and be safe about it.... got it up to 120 before I ran out of room, the car pulls incredibly from 70-110 probably because it's at the sweet spot in torque and slows down from 110 to 120+. BTW these were done on closed roads, please don't be stupid and do something like that on the streets, it would suck to get killed, but it would suck even more to kill somebody else... just remember how the stories end, the driver usually lives.
All in all, I'd get the TRD setup, the shocks and sway are great, any stiffer in the sway and you're asking for too much oversteer from what I can tell when I went autocrossing, and get a set of progressive rate springs when you have a lot of options to chose from in the future www.trdsparks.com has the combo for $500 - jump on it quick, the shocks retail for $525 alone.
Oh, and you're specifically wanting to have the ride as smooth as it is now or better really can't happen with just a spring and shock upgrade, you have to give something up and it's usually how bouncy it is. You could go for a custom modifyable coilover setup, but that'll cost almost a grand... too rich for my blood.
#5
i would have to agree, i just got the TRD struts and springs put on today, and i really cant tell a difference in ride quality unless i am driving over crappy roads. i would reccomend the upgrade, and it looks 100x better than stock
#6
The only springs I would recommend out right now are the TRD and H&R. Anything else with a lower drop is just calling for trouble.
Of course if you're looking for a smooth ride, stock is the best. Anything else besides stock makes the car stiffer. The TRD would probably be next in comfortability, then the H&R. If you get the TRD springs, I would recommend you get the TRD struts to go with them since they go hand and hand.
The sway bar I would definitely recommend. Makes the car takes corners better.
I purchased the whole TRD set (springs, struts, and sway) and it was definitly worth it.
If you're going autocrossing, that's a whole different story.
Of course if you're looking for a smooth ride, stock is the best. Anything else besides stock makes the car stiffer. The TRD would probably be next in comfortability, then the H&R. If you get the TRD springs, I would recommend you get the TRD struts to go with them since they go hand and hand.
The sway bar I would definitely recommend. Makes the car takes corners better.
I purchased the whole TRD set (springs, struts, and sway) and it was definitly worth it.
If you're going autocrossing, that's a whole different story.
#7
completly disagree i have the tein stechs and the ride is very smooth feel better than stock, i still can go over speed bumps at the same speed but have to be careful with leaving parking lots, i have the stock shocks i will upgrade later but fine now, i have had the last 3 vehicles of mine all droped and this one feels the best,
#8
The tein springs are better than stock and lower the car? Anyone else support this claim? Just out of curiosity on my part. I find it hard to believe.
If it is true, it is great except that my TRD's are gonna be here monday.
If it is true, it is great except that my TRD's are gonna be here monday.
#9
YOU HAVE AN AP, JUST LOOK AT THE PHOTOS IN MY SIG, THE LAST ONE, YOURS WILL LOOK THE SAME, I CAM CLOSE TO GETTING THE TRD'S BUT I WANTED LOWER, ya i know im yelling sorry!
tcav8r if you want i can show you in person im close by. i work in newport at fletcher jones motorcars,
tcav8r if you want i can show you in person im close by. i work in newport at fletcher jones motorcars,
#10
Originally Posted by TCAV8R
The tein springs are better than stock and lower the car? Anyone else support this claim? Just out of curiosity on my part. I find it hard to believe.
If it is true, it is great except that my TRD's are gonna be here monday.
If it is true, it is great except that my TRD's are gonna be here monday.
Sorry but you shoulda gone with the S-Techs
#11
there are no SPRINGS out there that are made to work with the STOCK shocks.
go ahead and flame me whoever but i dont want to be the one to be saying i told you so.
stock shocks should stay with stock springs. lowering springs will work your shocks more because of the stiffness and the height of the spring is a lil lower.
i highly recommend not gettin springs until you have performance shocks/struts. and the only struts i know of are the one's from TRD and the TEIN DAMPERS
go ahead and flame me whoever but i dont want to be the one to be saying i told you so.
stock shocks should stay with stock springs. lowering springs will work your shocks more because of the stiffness and the height of the spring is a lil lower.
i highly recommend not gettin springs until you have performance shocks/struts. and the only struts i know of are the one's from TRD and the TEIN DAMPERS
#12
I'd like to support the H&R/TRD shock/rear sway setup. I like the tein s-techs, but the drop is too extreme for me. H&R gives it a nice, noticeable drop, even over the TRD springs- but not so much that you look like you may be hiding hydraulics on your car.
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Originally Posted by TCAV8R
The tein springs are better than stock and lower the car? Anyone else support this claim? Just out of curiosity on my part. I find it hard to believe.
If it is true, it is great except that my TRD's are gonna be here monday.
If it is true, it is great except that my TRD's are gonna be here monday.
#15
Originally Posted by adamstc
completly disagree i have the tein stechs and the ride is very smooth feel better than stock
Now if you're talking about "feel," that's different and dependable on the person. Most people think a better "feel" is feeling the road since the tC could be considered a "sports car." But people have different ideas of how much they want to feel. I can agree that Teins "feel" better because they will feel the road a lot more and the cornering will be better because of the drop in center of gravity. But you'll be feeling a lot of the road, smooth or bumpy, whether you like it or not.
But in conclusion:
Smallest drop, least cornering, least feel, most smooth: TRD
Middle looks, middle cornering, middle feel, middle smooth: H&R
Bigger drop, most cornering, most feel, least smooth: TEINS
You basically make a sacrifice between feel and smooth.
I went with the TRD's because it wouldn't be low enough to cause too much trouble and I'm using the car as a daily driver so I didn't want it rough on other passengers and myself. But the H&R could be another good option. And the TEINS are personal preference.
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#16
just a quicky question..
Do you have to report your springs to th Insurance Company?...
Someone told me they did and that their quote went up like an extra 50-100
per month...
right now im on my own at 17.. and paying over 2800 a year...
and i cant really afford any more increases..
otherwise ill have to quit all sports... work 2 more days for a total of 6 dyas a week.
and if worse comes to worse.. .sell my tC ..... and buy something cheaper...
like a civic,... lol!!! nooo
Do you have to report your springs to th Insurance Company?...
Someone told me they did and that their quote went up like an extra 50-100
per month...
right now im on my own at 17.. and paying over 2800 a year...
and i cant really afford any more increases..
otherwise ill have to quit all sports... work 2 more days for a total of 6 dyas a week.
and if worse comes to worse.. .sell my tC ..... and buy something cheaper...
like a civic,... lol!!! nooo
#17
i just put on my tein stechs on TRD struts and ride is pretty aweseome for that big a drop. its hard to tell that the car is dropped while driving or riding in it...feels good, not bouncy
#18
I purchased an installed H&R springs on my tC and love them.
Car rides great, but handles much better. The only delay in handling I have experienced is caused by the cheaper OEM tires included with the car.
The next mod I'm doing is the Progress sway bars.
I sell H&R, Tein, and Progress (springs and coilovers). If you need anything feel free to PM me.
Car rides great, but handles much better. The only delay in handling I have experienced is caused by the cheaper OEM tires included with the car.
The next mod I'm doing is the Progress sway bars.
I sell H&R, Tein, and Progress (springs and coilovers). If you need anything feel free to PM me.
#19
spring and shock question...
i have seen this twice here... and i can;t see any reason why you can not use aftermarket springs with factory struts/shocks... the function of the strut/shock is one things and the function of the springs is another..
i will give you that replacing both together is complimentary.. but using TRD springs with the factory struts/shock should produce absolutely no adverse affects... shocks/struts are made to work over a certain "range" of movement.. NOW....... having said that.. if you said to me that because you lowered the car 2 inches you would bottom out the strut/shock under regular use then i will concede that YES.. if the aftermarket strut/shock was made to work over this reduced range.. then you would need to use the aftermarket strut/shock.. but as long as you stay within the working range of the strut.. the stiffness of the spring has absolutly no bearing on whether your strut/shock will last or not..
now.. if im wrong.. please enlighten me on the reasoning behind the statement that you "need" to run the aftermarket struts/shocks if you run the aftermarket springs.
no offense meant by this maybe strong worded post..
i will give you that replacing both together is complimentary.. but using TRD springs with the factory struts/shock should produce absolutely no adverse affects... shocks/struts are made to work over a certain "range" of movement.. NOW....... having said that.. if you said to me that because you lowered the car 2 inches you would bottom out the strut/shock under regular use then i will concede that YES.. if the aftermarket strut/shock was made to work over this reduced range.. then you would need to use the aftermarket strut/shock.. but as long as you stay within the working range of the strut.. the stiffness of the spring has absolutly no bearing on whether your strut/shock will last or not..
now.. if im wrong.. please enlighten me on the reasoning behind the statement that you "need" to run the aftermarket struts/shocks if you run the aftermarket springs.
no offense meant by this maybe strong worded post..
#20
Originally Posted by NoShiO
just a quicky question..
Do you have to report your springs to th Insurance Company?...
Someone told me they did and that their quote went up like an extra 50-100
per month...
right now im on my own at 17.. and paying over 2800 a year...
and i cant really afford any more increases..
otherwise ill have to quit all sports... work 2 more days for a total of 6 dyas a week.
and if worse comes to worse.. .sell my tC ..... and buy something cheaper...
like a civic,... lol!!! nooo
Do you have to report your springs to th Insurance Company?...
Someone told me they did and that their quote went up like an extra 50-100
per month...
right now im on my own at 17.. and paying over 2800 a year...
and i cant really afford any more increases..
otherwise ill have to quit all sports... work 2 more days for a total of 6 dyas a week.
and if worse comes to worse.. .sell my tC ..... and buy something cheaper...
like a civic,... lol!!! nooo
John