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Old 01-04-2011 | 05:15 AM
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Had no idea giving a valuable opinion was trolling. ROFL

And a lot of people are also running both of these setup's with problems. The raceland thread is full of issues with the product, and rokkor's are fairly new and problems are just starting to arise.

Jon, yes the tC is an "economy" car however its a very expensive or "high end" economy car. Its one of the most expensive in its class, and has many many more standard features for a decent price then what it would cost for a civic, sentra, etc. However for those who are putting a decent amount of money into it does not mean that it should settle for cheap parts. Look how many well modded civics have a few grand into them, a lot of them have more money in performance parts then what the car is worth. I think your logic might be a bit flawed, but thats a matter of opinion.

Doc, once again your car, mod as you like. Good luck with the Rokkor's and let us know how they work out.
Uh no one is having problems with Raceland's or Rokkor's so you are wrong about that. Do you also know that anyone who has ran into a problem got it fixed right away. Raceland is very good and will send you a replacement asap.

We are talking about modding on a budget, ya there are people who dump a ____ ton of cash into their car, good for them...I want to have fun with my car, and spend the least amount of cash as possible.
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Originally Posted by Spicy_McHaggiz
Had no idea giving a valuable opinion was trolling. ROFL

And a lot of people are also running both of these setup's with problems. The raceland thread is full of issues with the product, and rokkor's are fairly new and problems are just starting to arise.
I'm pretty sure you're incorrect. I've been watching the Rokkor thread and haven't come across someone having an issue with them. And even with the Racelands, 95% of the issues were blown struts--something that they seemed to have fixed.

Jon, yes the tC is an "economy" car however its a very expensive or "high end" economy car. Its one of the most expensive in its class, and has many many more standard features for a decent price then what it would cost for a civic, sentra, etc. However for those who are putting a decent amount of money into it does not mean that it should settle for cheap parts. Look how many well modded civics have a few grand into them, a lot of them have more money in performance parts then what the car is worth. I think your logic might be a bit flawed, but thats a matter of opinion.
So we drive an oxymoron? Sugar coat it however you like, the tC is still an entry-level mode of transportation. The sub $20k starting price is proof of that.
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im making my account for the rokkor website now as we speak. about to order them. weeee.

and nylitc, u mean the nut on the top mounts? u need to compress the spring first before u remove the hat. or else the srping will shoot out like a cannon. haha
on my friends Evo we just had the biggest dude stand on the spring, then unscrewed it slowly..worked fine, and no one went to the hospital haha.
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A tool is something you only use a few times. A 10 dollar breaker bar will do the job for a spring install along with 10 dollar sockets. They won't strip out bolts and if they break, you can take them back. (I also have about 15K in MATCO tools back home that I don't want to ship out here) But suspension components, things that your car actually rides on and needs, different story. Hell even Autozone has cheap ___ tools that get the job done. Plus you'd be surprised how many mechanics will cheap out on tools to get a job done, yet their customers will never know.
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seriously dude we get the fact you dont like racelands even thou you have never used them so you really have no idea how the product is..therefore your opinion is shi* in this thread..ive been running them for a year and 25000 mile..i commuted 50+ miles a day for work for bout 9 months on them..and for the past 3 months im now only a 10 mile drive but i also took them on a road trip from seattle to practically shasta calif..and ive gone free ways..interstates..gravel roads..dirt roads you name it and have had zero issues with the coilovers..and even still easy to adjust them..i think most peeps are just bitter..but some people are name brand snobs and think there shi* is sweeter then the next bc there coils say Tein..well driving down the freeway and parked at a show..you cant tell so get them man..save that extra 7-800$ and put it to good use..
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Have you seen the welds or held them in person? They are perfectly fine, and no one has had any problems with them breaking apart...you can leave now.
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Originally Posted by 09SocalTC
on my friends Evo we just had the biggest dude stand on the spring, then unscrewed it slowly..worked fine, and no one went to the hospital haha.

blake, mac showed me one trick where he just removed the nut with the impact gun really fast. it kinda shot, but only like an inch. i guess the gun removed it so fast, the spring forgot to decompress. haha
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Originally Posted by 09SocalTC
Have you seen the welds or held them in person? They are perfectly fine, and no one has had any problems with them breaking apart...you can leave now.
^^^^X10
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Any idea on how to tight the middke bolt
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RL's blowing struts within a few months is a big problem. Take it as you will. I've given up on this car as it is. Since most people seem to cheap out on the mods then call their cars hot and make build threads. Simple fact is, PAY TO PLAY. Ask any car enthusiast and you'll get that answer. If you don't have the budget to mod, save! Sure people have had great experiences with said cheap parts, but people have also had crappy experiences. Just because people don't post them up on this site that is lackluster as far as membership goes, doesn't mean crap can't and isn't going wrong. Remember, a forum is only a small representation of a said group.

tC is not at all an entry level vehicle. xA yes. But when there are cars like the Aveo and some Kia's starting under 10K or 14K, you cannot call this an entry level vehicle. Economy yes due to its MPG and price, but not entry level. Read that and sugar coat it as you like, its simply not the case of a tC being entry level.

NY guy, check the DIY for how tight the nut should be. I believe its about 80 ft lbs. give or take.

Last thought for this thread since it seems most people advocate cheap modding with a major component. Would you trust an ebay turbocharger kit on your car? Exactly. Doc enjoy and enjoy modding your car. The "points" brought about in this thread hold little to no water and aren't worth me even responding. I know how to properly mod a car, I can pay for good parts, call me cocky but my crap doesn't break. And I've at least spent 3 years as a mechanic to see the effects of crap parts.
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Order Number 100462 Customer ID 61256 Order Date 1/4/2011 12:17:10 AM

awwww yeeeeee. in ur face expensive stuff.
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Originally Posted by jeremydoc
blake, mac showed me one trick where he just removed the nut with the impact gun really fast. it kinda shot, but only like an inch. i guess the gun removed it so fast, the spring forgot to decompress. haha
yup I've done that before to...I've only used a spring compressor once, and that was to get my OEM springs off...those ____ers had so much tension.
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If you remove the nut while the suspension is still compressed (the car still on the ground) it won't fly off...I think. It's been a while since I installed springs/coils.

Also, to tighten it on the RL's, you can use the collar wrench to keep the housing from spinning while someone else uses a ratchet to tighten it. At least that's how we installed them on my friend's car.
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^LOL i think this guy just wants us to think hes a baller with $$$.."Since most people seem to cheap out on the mods then call their cars hot and make build threads"

sorry your tC looked like ____ dude..
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If you remove the nut while the suspension is still compressed (the car still on the ground) it won't fly off...I think. It's been a while since I installed springs/coils.

Also, to tighten it on the RL's, you can use the collar wrench to keep the housing from spinning while someone else uses a ratchet to tighten it. At least that's how we installed them on my friend's car.
Thats the way i tried n didnt work
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yup I've done that before to...I've only used a spring compressor once, and that was to get my OEM springs off...those ____ers had so much tension.


yeah me 2. even my stechs, i used the compressors, but i barely even compressed them. most of the work pushin it were my hands. haha
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Originally Posted by Spicy_McHaggiz
RL's blowing struts within a few months is a big problem. Take it as you will. I've given up on this car as it is. Since most people seem to cheap out on the mods then call their cars hot and make build threads. Simple fact is, PAY TO PLAY. Ask any car enthusiast and you'll get that answer. If you don't have the budget to mod, save! Sure people have had great experiences with said cheap parts, but people have also had crappy experiences. Just because people don't post them up on this site that is lackluster as far as membership goes, doesn't mean crap can't and isn't going wrong. Remember, a forum is only a small representation of a said group.

tC is not at all an entry level vehicle. xA yes. But when there are cars like the Aveo and some Kia's starting under 10K or 14K, you cannot call this an entry level vehicle. Economy yes due to its MPG and price, but not entry level. Read that and sugar coat it as you like, its simply not the case of a tC being entry level.
You gave up on your tC because people are rocking cheap parts?...Wow dude you sound like the biggest baby ever right now...its a freakin car....a tC...a brand of toyota...a econ car...not a hand crafted Italian sports car.
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Originally Posted by Spicy_McHaggiz
Just because people don't post them up on this site that is lackluster as far as membership goes, doesn't mean crap can't and isn't going wrong. Remember, a forum is only a small representation of a said group.
No one is forcing you to be here.

tC is not at all an entry level vehicle. xA yes. But when there are cars like the Aveo and some Kia's starting under 10K or 14K, you cannot call this an entry level vehicle. Economy yes due to its MPG and price, but not entry level. Read that and sugar coat it as you like, its simply not the case of a tC being entry level.
You don't drive a Lexus.

Last thought for this thread since it seems most people advocate cheap modding with a major component. Would you trust an ebay turbocharger kit on your car? Exactly. Doc enjoy and enjoy modding your car. The "points" brought about in this thread hold little to no water and aren't worth me even responding. I know how to properly mod a car, I can pay for good parts, call me cocky but my crap doesn't break. And I've at least spent 3 years as a mechanic to see the effects of crap parts.
I can't respond to this without going on a tangent, so I'll leave it be.
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The part in which that nut is connected to is somewhat free spinning. You have to either "yank" on the wrench fast enough to spin the nut quickly yet not the strut post or use an impact wrench to do so. ALWAYS COMPRESS THE SPRING WITH A SPRING COMPRESSOR. Not doing so can result in serious injury or death since springs can fly off and put a hole in a roof 15 ft above you. Even if you take the nut off while installed on the car, it can easily shoot through the strut mount.
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all i gotta say is wow.


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