SS lines for the tC
#1
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SS lines for the tC
What the hell are the differences between all the major brands and the ebay brands?
I see some that are $100 for the fronts, and some that are $75 for fronts and backs and don't want to throw away more money then needed.
thanks
I see some that are $100 for the fronts, and some that are $75 for fronts and backs and don't want to throw away more money then needed.
thanks
#3
Have you upgraded your brakes at all? Does your brake pedal feel spongy? If not, then spending $75 or $100 on SS lines is almost throwing more money away.
The purpose of replacing to SS lines is to prevent the spongy or mushy feeling after driving on worn rubber factory brake lines. Stainless steel lines do not expand when the brake is applied, therefore all of the braking force makes its way to the caliper. The result is firmer braking action. If your factory rubber lines are more or less new, then don't spend your money on SS lines unless you plan on doing a BBK conversion.
I'm also not saying it's a bad idea to upgrade to SS lines, but if your saving up money, then there is no need.
I'd go with Stop Tech as a company of choice for brakes or ss brake lines.
The purpose of replacing to SS lines is to prevent the spongy or mushy feeling after driving on worn rubber factory brake lines. Stainless steel lines do not expand when the brake is applied, therefore all of the braking force makes its way to the caliper. The result is firmer braking action. If your factory rubber lines are more or less new, then don't spend your money on SS lines unless you plan on doing a BBK conversion.
I'm also not saying it's a bad idea to upgrade to SS lines, but if your saving up money, then there is no need.
I'd go with Stop Tech as a company of choice for brakes or ss brake lines.
#5
actually the purpose of SS lines is to help prevent the fluid from boiling. so its a must have if your gunna take your ride to the track. your not throwing your money away...but rather buying parts for the most important part of a car...the brake system.
#6
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how much variance is there with a teflon brake line with a stainless shell???
I hate to do this comparrison but take bottle water. Jewel brand is $3.99 a case, but Hinkley and Schmidt is $5.99 a case. They are both the same water....but one has name brand status
I just don't want to pay more for the same thing. Does anyone have any actual spec differences <---going out on a limb here!!!
I hate to do this comparrison but take bottle water. Jewel brand is $3.99 a case, but Hinkley and Schmidt is $5.99 a case. They are both the same water....but one has name brand status
I just don't want to pay more for the same thing. Does anyone have any actual spec differences <---going out on a limb here!!!
#7
just do some research man. comparing something that can decide your fate in this world to a bottle of water isnt an accurate representation. stop tech does stringent testing to all its products...do the ebay specials have that kind of paper trail? its your life your putting on the line everytime you get behind the wheel...expecially if its in a track situation. whos hands do you want to put your life in? id go with the guys who do all their testing on the race track.
#8
Originally Posted by Scott8
^^^ love the turbo fund!!!!
I am going to be going to the track and running my ZPI stage 1.5, so I want to have some good stopping ability.
I am going to be going to the track and running my ZPI stage 1.5, so I want to have some good stopping ability.
If your going to the track then it is not a bad investment. You would see more out of a nice set of pads as apposed to ss lines tho. If the price diff is only around 25 bux between the lines, then shell out the money and go with a brand name. You'll be safer and happier in the end.
#9
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Originally Posted by dex
just do some research man. comparing something that can decide your fate in this world to a bottle of water isnt an accurate representation. stop tech does stringent testing to all its products...do the ebay specials have that kind of paper trail? its your life your putting on the line everytime you get behind the wheel...expecially if its in a track situation. whos hands do you want to put your life in? id go with the guys who do all their testing on the race track.
#10
Originally Posted by Scott8
Originally Posted by dex
just do some research man. comparing something that can decide your fate in this world to a bottle of water isnt an accurate representation. stop tech does stringent testing to all its products...do the ebay specials have that kind of paper trail? its your life your putting on the line everytime you get behind the wheel...expecially if its in a track situation. whos hands do you want to put your life in? id go with the guys who do all their testing on the race track.
#11
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Originally Posted by KINGxOFxSKA
Originally Posted by Scott8
^^^ love the turbo fund!!!!
I am going to be going to the track and running my ZPI stage 1.5, so I want to have some good stopping ability.
I am going to be going to the track and running my ZPI stage 1.5, so I want to have some good stopping ability.
If your going to the track then it is not a bad investment. You would see more out of a nice set of pads as apposed to ss lines tho. If the price diff is only around 25 bux between the lines, then shell out the money and go with a brand name. You'll be safer and happier in the end.
the price for a set of BF good's are $200 or so. Agenecy Power is $124, some ebay lines are $67 for the fronts and rears.
#12
Here ya go. This might help you out a bit.
http://www.stoptech.com/products/sta...al_lines.shtml
A buddy of mine works at StopTech and all I can are great things about that company after seeing what they have to offer.
http://www.stoptech.com/products/sta...al_lines.shtml
A buddy of mine works at StopTech and all I can are great things about that company after seeing what they have to offer.
#13
Here's also something to check out.
I know it's more than what you are looking to pay, but its worth a look.
Stop Tech Stage 2 Brake Upgrade Kit (Not BBK)
http://www.injectedperformance.com/V...ID=3564&VID=66
I know it's more than what you are looking to pay, but its worth a look.
Stop Tech Stage 2 Brake Upgrade Kit (Not BBK)
http://www.injectedperformance.com/V...ID=3564&VID=66
#14
Originally Posted by dex
actually the purpose of SS lines is to help prevent the fluid from boiling. so its a must have if your gunna take your ride to the track. your not throwing your money away...but rather buying parts for the most important part of a car...the brake system.
#15
Just to clarify a few tings, the lines will not offer any help when it comes to reducing fluid fade due to boiling fluid. Fluid really only tends to boil in the calipers where the heat from the pads and rotors gets high enough to heatsoak the calipers and bring the fluid up and over 400-600 degrees (depending on the fluid). Lines are installed to improve pedal feel and to improve the responsiveness of the system by getting rid of the flex in the stock rubber lines. On a new car the differnece wont be as noticeable but you wil maintain the feel of a new car without the slow degredation in feel of the rubber lines.
The differences you see in pricing can be attributed to a few different things including line quality, type of fittings and assembly and testing procedures. Our lines tend to cost a little more than some other brands but that is due to a few things. All of our lines use a teflon inner liner and stanless braid which has an outer sheating to protect the braid from contamination and to reduce the chance of chafing in case the line rubs agains anything. We also pressure test every singe line that is made to 4500PSI to ensure that the line is built to spec. Every line we make is built less than 100 feet from my desk at our HQ in Torrance CA to DOT spec and include other essentials like banjo bolts and crush washers, hardware to attatch the lines to the factory mounting locations, and rubber plugs to seal the hard lines when changing the lines so you dont lose too much fluid and make a big mess.
The differences you see in pricing can be attributed to a few different things including line quality, type of fittings and assembly and testing procedures. Our lines tend to cost a little more than some other brands but that is due to a few things. All of our lines use a teflon inner liner and stanless braid which has an outer sheating to protect the braid from contamination and to reduce the chance of chafing in case the line rubs agains anything. We also pressure test every singe line that is made to 4500PSI to ensure that the line is built to spec. Every line we make is built less than 100 feet from my desk at our HQ in Torrance CA to DOT spec and include other essentials like banjo bolts and crush washers, hardware to attatch the lines to the factory mounting locations, and rubber plugs to seal the hard lines when changing the lines so you dont lose too much fluid and make a big mess.
#17
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Originally Posted by KINGxOFxSKA
Here's also something to check out.
I know it's more than what you are looking to pay, but its worth a look.
Stop Tech Stage 2 Brake Upgrade Kit (Not BBK)
http://www.injectedperformance.com/V...ID=3564&VID=66
I know it's more than what you are looking to pay, but its worth a look.
Stop Tech Stage 2 Brake Upgrade Kit (Not BBK)
http://www.injectedperformance.com/V...ID=3564&VID=66
I am not concearned about paying money for the product. I have a turbo'd tC to go race at the track. I would like to consider myself a smart consumer and do some research instead of just buying a product cause of the name.
#18
Ingalls has lines, which are nice and competitively priced.
http://dezod.com/pd_ingalls_stainles...ided_brake.cfm
http://dezod.com/pd_ingalls_stainles...ided_brake.cfm
#20
Originally Posted by Scott8
Originally Posted by KINGxOFxSKA
Here's also something to check out.
I know it's more than what you are looking to pay, but its worth a look.
Stop Tech Stage 2 Brake Upgrade Kit (Not BBK)
http://www.injectedperformance.com/V...ID=3564&VID=66
I know it's more than what you are looking to pay, but its worth a look.
Stop Tech Stage 2 Brake Upgrade Kit (Not BBK)
http://www.injectedperformance.com/V...ID=3564&VID=66
I am not concearned about paying money for the product. I have a turbo'd tC to go race at the track. I would like to consider myself a smart consumer and do some research instead of just buying a product cause of the name.