TRD tC Brake Pads!
#21
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From: Sparks Scion (SC)
Re: test
Originally Posted by therotman
Originally Posted by Sparks Scion TRD Parts
The only current real world test that I have personal contact with, was on an MR2 and the hard braking driver got a 20% improvement in his brake pad life using the TRD's. These pads will be there when your originals are worn out and then you'll have at least two choices. The real test will be using these TRD's as the first replacement for your originals and letting everyone know how much of a change you got. FYI, the TRD Pads sell for less than the original equipment. Might be a real bargain.
Ken
Ken
Ken
#22
Originally Posted by TougetC
for those of my bretheren in the SoCal area. all u gotta do is take off the stock tC brake lines. drive to Earls in Hawthorne, and they'll make a SS set for you right then and there, just like OEM. no celica guesswork. and Earls is the best. oh and as for brake pads, im not sure if the have em for the tC yet, but ive found that Hawk pads are great and very affordable. bleh, im done.
How much would this cost anyways? Folks have already used the Celica lines so we know they work...
#23
Here is what we have.
85-855-4500 Front lines $81
85-855-5500 Rear lines $67
Lines are all made in house, DOT approved, Each individually pressure tested vs testing one out of each batch. Lines are Teflon coated to protect the braided steel.
Hawk pads.
63-410-0817 Front Hawk HPS pads for Scion Tc $77
63-420-0817 Front Hawk HP+ pads for Sction Tc $98
I have heard of the rear hawk pads not fitting correctly. I'm not sure of the reason. I cannot guarantee fitment of the rear pads from Hawk.
The HPS are their performance street pad. Moderate to low dust and low noise. The Hawk HP+ have higher performance however they will make noises and create more dust.
Axxis Ultimates have higher friction values than the HPS, however not higher than the HP+. The friction value of the Axxis Ultimates is close to that of the HP+ . Axxis Ultimate will work at higher temperatures than both Hawk Pads.
85-855-4500 Front lines $81
85-855-5500 Rear lines $67
Lines are all made in house, DOT approved, Each individually pressure tested vs testing one out of each batch. Lines are Teflon coated to protect the braided steel.
Hawk pads.
63-410-0817 Front Hawk HPS pads for Scion Tc $77
63-420-0817 Front Hawk HP+ pads for Sction Tc $98
I have heard of the rear hawk pads not fitting correctly. I'm not sure of the reason. I cannot guarantee fitment of the rear pads from Hawk.
The HPS are their performance street pad. Moderate to low dust and low noise. The Hawk HP+ have higher performance however they will make noises and create more dust.
Axxis Ultimates have higher friction values than the HPS, however not higher than the HP+. The friction value of the Axxis Ultimates is close to that of the HP+ . Axxis Ultimate will work at higher temperatures than both Hawk Pads.
#24
Re: test
Originally Posted by Sparks Scion TRD Parts
The 20% improvement was the life of the pad based on the mileage and the owner felt the pads had better stopping performance. All of the pads made for TRD are designed to improve performance over stock pads so in that sense they are like the ones on the MR2. Not trying to be vague, but TRD's desire is to make available an improved product, not a lesser product from stock and I don't have manufacturers' data to give you details on production processes and material percentages.
Ken
Ken
I'll add these pads to my want to buy list
#26
i guess ill post my 2 cents...
first on braided SS lines.. if you want to track your car.. where you will grow your leg muscles braking.. then i say go with the braided SS lines.. " FOR SAFETY" reasons..
i have gone from regular factory brake lines to braided lines and i have not felt a bit of difference.. granted my present car is not a tc.. but factory brake lines do not give much if at all.. and i doubt you will get stiffer feeling brakes.. maybe mentally you will feel them.. but i doubt it is real.. again... this is just my expirience... BTW.. my present car is a 95 pontiac GTP..
on brake pads... i will probably use the trd pads when it comes time for a change.. or if i feel any significant amount of fade when i finally get the TC , just to test them out.. personally.. id go with performance friction z-rated if they are available.... PF pads are rough on rotors.. but they stop the car.. and only get better as they heat up.. i have tried other "performance pads" or "dust less" that are suppose to be as good as the PF pads.. and even with crossdrilled and slotted rotors.. fade cames in after 3 or 4 hard stops.. the PF pads will actually start to grab alot harder and start to feel like they are grinding....
the drawback to PF's z-rated pads... cold torque.. or the lack of... PF made some fomula change about 2 years back that made a positive difference in this area.. but the cold torque is still not the same as say your run of the mill pad.. ( cold torque is the grabbing power of the pad when say you are just driving out of your driveway in the morning and hit the brakes) they will stop your car.. but you may feel like something is just not right.. but 2 or 3 stops and they are 100%.... and when you decide to lean hard on your brakes.. when other pads will have alredy given out.. these puppies are just getting started.. but like said above.. for this stopping power you will pay with rotors..
first on braided SS lines.. if you want to track your car.. where you will grow your leg muscles braking.. then i say go with the braided SS lines.. " FOR SAFETY" reasons..
i have gone from regular factory brake lines to braided lines and i have not felt a bit of difference.. granted my present car is not a tc.. but factory brake lines do not give much if at all.. and i doubt you will get stiffer feeling brakes.. maybe mentally you will feel them.. but i doubt it is real.. again... this is just my expirience... BTW.. my present car is a 95 pontiac GTP..
on brake pads... i will probably use the trd pads when it comes time for a change.. or if i feel any significant amount of fade when i finally get the TC , just to test them out.. personally.. id go with performance friction z-rated if they are available.... PF pads are rough on rotors.. but they stop the car.. and only get better as they heat up.. i have tried other "performance pads" or "dust less" that are suppose to be as good as the PF pads.. and even with crossdrilled and slotted rotors.. fade cames in after 3 or 4 hard stops.. the PF pads will actually start to grab alot harder and start to feel like they are grinding....
the drawback to PF's z-rated pads... cold torque.. or the lack of... PF made some fomula change about 2 years back that made a positive difference in this area.. but the cold torque is still not the same as say your run of the mill pad.. ( cold torque is the grabbing power of the pad when say you are just driving out of your driveway in the morning and hit the brakes) they will stop your car.. but you may feel like something is just not right.. but 2 or 3 stops and they are 100%.... and when you decide to lean hard on your brakes.. when other pads will have alredy given out.. these puppies are just getting started.. but like said above.. for this stopping power you will pay with rotors..
#27
as far as SS lines just being for the track? i think not. the whole purpose and intention of stainless lines is to PREVENT flexing of the brakelines which can happen thru daily driving. especially here in traffic ridden southern cali. of course you wont feel any difference at first but if you are an avid heavy-braker, the effectiveness int he long run is immensely valuable. yes SS brake lines can be pricy, but to a daily driver/nightly touge dirver. the cost is nothing to save your life. oh yea and they also help to redline your "BLING-BLING" gauge too!!!
#31
"Not for use on vehicles with Vehicle Skid Control"
I was interested in the pads... But what's up with that line? All tCs have vehicle skid control. I think that should be cleared up first because that threw me off a little.
I was interested in the pads... But what's up with that line? All tCs have vehicle skid control. I think that should be cleared up first because that threw me off a little.
#32
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From: Sparks Scion (SC)
Originally Posted by suby2scion
Hey Ken you never answered me....
can you get both the HP and HP-Z TRD pads? if so, how much for the HP-Z?
And do you accept the $50 GC?
Thanks!
can you get both the HP and HP-Z TRD pads? if so, how much for the HP-Z?
And do you accept the $50 GC?
Thanks!
Ken
#33
Originally Posted by Joe@Dezod
"Not for use on vehicles with Vehicle Skid Control"
I was interested in the pads... But what's up with that line? All tCs have vehicle skid control. I think that should be cleared up first because that threw me off a little.
I was interested in the pads... But what's up with that line? All tCs have vehicle skid control. I think that should be cleared up first because that threw me off a little.
#36
The reason the rear pads for the Celica GT-S don't fit the tC is because they don't use the same pad. Pretty simple, huh?
I've ordered a set of Goodridge SS lines for the GT-S (confirmed with someone who already installed GT-S lines that they work), I'll let you know how they work out.
I have EBC Redstuff pads all around now. Still bedding them in, but so far no problems, except for a bit of squeal from the fronts. They work fine cold, too. I'll let you know how they are in a couple hundred miles.
The rear pads are tiny. I've seen bigger pads on a kart. Seriously.
I've ordered a set of Goodridge SS lines for the GT-S (confirmed with someone who already installed GT-S lines that they work), I'll let you know how they work out.
I have EBC Redstuff pads all around now. Still bedding them in, but so far no problems, except for a bit of squeal from the fronts. They work fine cold, too. I'll let you know how they are in a couple hundred miles.
The rear pads are tiny. I've seen bigger pads on a kart. Seriously.
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